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13 January 2008, 12:41
TrackersNZEuropeon Wild Boar
In a few weeks I will be hunting Wild Boar in Slovekia.
Tell me what is the average size of these Boar, and what is considered to be a very big one?
Thank You
...."At some point in every man's life he should own a Sako rifle and a John Deere tractor....it just doesn't get any better...."
13 January 2008, 12:53
FainaHello,
a very big wild boar is every one over 150 Kg. In some case you'll find boars over 200 Kg, but very rare.
Faina
I prefer to die standing that to live in knee
14 January 2008, 13:27
mouse93quote:
Originally posted by TrackersNZ:
Wild Boar in Slovekia
Will you be hunting in Slovenia or Slovakia?
Piglets weigh ~45 kg now, yearlings 60+ kgs, and grown animals 80+ kgs. Anything above 100 kgs is big in my book and above 120 is very big (all weights guted), however with males it is all about tusks - anything above 17 cm is big...
P.S. In praxis - if you actually see tusks on living animal he is big.
14 January 2008, 21:51
Steve MalinverniMy biggest were 135 kg, still not gutted. probably it was more near to 137/138kg because I hitted it at the neck, where the big vessels are and it loosed a lot of blood because it lied with the head downhill for an hour or more.
As I already wrote, the biggest bagged by our equipe was around 170kg.
All the animals over the 120kg are very big, here in Italy, that is not so far from Slovenia.
If you are going to Slovakia, you will probably find more very big boars, around and over 200kg
bye
Stefano
Waidmannsheil
15 January 2008, 00:16
Monastery-ForesterHere in Germany we have a lot of wildboars, but we have the same weights like Mouse told of Slovenia!
Last friday we got 28, the smallest was very young, catched by a terrier, perhaps 2kg, the biggest a 3 year old "Keiler" with 90kg!
15 January 2008, 04:12
GerryI agree wholeheartedly with the above.
The vast majortiy of what we shoot varies from newborn Piglets to say, 60-80 Kgs.
A 80 Kg. Wild Boar is a dandy trophy and anything over 100 Kg is a really BIG Porker, indeed and would be considered quite a prize.
Once you've seen a sounder or two though the BIG ones; like they actually are, REALLY look BIG.
Cheers,
Number 10
16 January 2008, 12:01
sewinbasherThere are boar in the UK to 200kg but some are of Eastern European origin which may explain it.
16 January 2008, 14:46
solviFrom my hunt last weekend
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16 January 2008, 17:35
mouse93
big boy that my friend's client took last Saturday on driven hunt in Croatia:
16 January 2008, 18:26
mhoquote:
Originally posted by sewinbasher:
There are boar in the UK to 200kg but some are of Eastern European origin which may explain it.
Sewin, be aware that weights for game (e.g. wild boar) from Central Europe will almost always be dressed weights. I don't know what your 200 kg reference - dressed or live weight??
Genetics certainly has something to do with weight and size, but climatic conditions and availability of food will factor in heavily as well. I'll bet you, the mild UK climate and vicinity of agricultural food sources have a pronounced effect.
- mike
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The rifle is a noble weapon... It entices its bearer into primeval forests, into mountains and deserts untenanted by man. - Horace Kephart
16 January 2008, 19:34
b.martinsquote:
Originally posted by mho:
Genetics certainly has something to do with weight and size, but climatic conditions and availability of food will factor in heavily as well. I'll bet you, the mild UK climate and vicinity of agricultural food sources have a pronounced effect.
Mike,
The climate and availability of food do play an important role. But probably not in the way you seem to believe it does.
Of course the availability of food may result in an increase of weight but a mild climate will have the exact opposite effect: the colder the climate the bigger the wild boar.
From all the European sub-species the Sus scrofa castillanus (Portugal/Spain) is the smallest one. The larger sub-specie (Sus scrofa attila) is to be found in the Balkans and neighbouring countries where the climate is indeed much colder.
Centuries of evolution (and the consequent genetic adaptations) do play a further more important role (on wild boar weight) than food availability and sudden climate change.
B.Martins
What every gun needs, apart from calibre, is a good shot and hunter behind it. - José Pardal
16 January 2008, 23:22
Monastery-ForesterSolvi, where have you been? Skagafjördur, or east coast? I have not known, that you have such black animals in Iceland! I thought your biggest animals are your tölting hestar!
17 January 2008, 00:20
TrackersNZSome great pictures and a good discussion.
Our Wild Boar are not so big by comparison.
The largest boar I have personally shot was 236 pounds (Just over 100 kilograms)
I have always dreamed about shooting a Boar of 200kg.
Apologies for my initial mispell of Slovakia.
Mouse: It is Slovakia where I will hunt.
I do have a Slovenian hunting with me in 2008.
This hunt is a return favour by some Slovakian friends who hunted with me in 2007. I will go there after the hunting exhibition in Salzburg.
From the Slovakians I learned the initiation tradition that you must beat the newly blooded hunter across the arse with a stick, as he lies across the back of the dead animal.
This is when he shoots the first specimen of a new species.
The beating must be done by a hunter who has already killed an animal of this species.
As you can imagine I ended up switching/beating the crap out of the Slovakians, as they shot many species that do not exist in Europe.
However now I think it will be their opportunity to revenge.

I just wander if the Europeon Boar is considered something different than our Wild Boar (sus scrofa) by these same beating rules.
I will also hopefully hunt Mouflon and anything else that moves. With the Mouflon I am safe.
...."At some point in every man's life he should own a Sako rifle and a John Deere tractor....it just doesn't get any better...."
17 January 2008, 17:52
GerryTrackers....
Would just like to ensure the apropriate cultural sensitivity is observed if I'm ever in New Zealand.
Are there any variations to this theme; like, for example.....Latex, Chains, Handcuffs, etc. or do you have to remain attired in your Hunting Clothes?
I'm sure the rifle is unloaded so as not to be concerned about an accidental discharge?

Cheers,
Number 10
17 January 2008, 23:58
FainaTrackersNZ, I'll tell you a story. Some years ago I was hunting in my country, in the mountain of course!! I was waiting for a chamois, but than I see two nice wild boars: the first about 140 lbs (63Kg), the second 220 lbs (100Kg).
In this moment I can shot one of this.... I need to decide quickly!!! I decide... and I kill one of the two boars.
Which??? The first, the little one. Why not the biggerst??? Why I hunt even alone, and in my mountain it's impossible to transport a boar from 200lbs or more to the car.....
I'll say you: weight is not important, what's important is your hunting experience... All that's around the shot.
Faina
I prefer to die standing that to live in knee
18 January 2008, 15:38
Steve MalinverniGerry,

please don't joke on this tradition, there is nothing of sexual in the ceremony. It is possible some variation like the stick dimensions, if you want thorns on it or not.
Not too much more, of course you can beg mercy offering expensive banquets and drinks. The only one that will suffer for this solution will be your bank account

At the end the stick, normally artisically engraved by the local hunters, is your.
Trackers,
wild boar (sus scrofa) is wild boar (sus scrofa) in any part of the world, Europe or NZ. If you already took one, well you are safe, otherwise you have to udergo to the beating rules.
If you already took one BUT if you really enjoyed the beating ceremony and if you want to re-enjoy it, well you can declare that you never bagged a Wild Boar (sus scrofa) or that your boars are something of really different and you will be satisfied again.

let us know
bye
Stefano
Waidmannsheil
21 January 2008, 01:25
john.d.mTrackersNZ,if you going to be in U.K let me know and I can put you in touch with the chap who took over all my boar shooting.
Let me know if I can help.
21 January 2008, 17:38
D99Fainia,
Nice truck! Wish they sold them in the states.
I kept looking for a nice Landy to import before I left Sicily but the US law is that they have to be 25 years old.
So that kept me from finding one that was old enough and in good enough condition.
Double cab 130 bakkie, heaven on earth!
22 January 2008, 10:23
FainaHi D99,
I wonder that in USA don't sold the good Land Rover Defender one-ten like mine!!! Are you sure???
They sold this in the U.S. in 1993, 1994, 1995 and 1997.
When you'll be back in europe, you need to come to me at hunt, so you can drive my Defender.... We'll have a lot fun!!!
Faina
I prefer to die standing that to live in knee
24 January 2008, 03:34
sewinbasherquote:
Originally posted by mho:
quote:
Originally posted by sewinbasher:
There are boar in the UK to 200kg but some are of Eastern European origin which may explain it.
Sewin, be aware that weights for game (e.g. wild boar) from Central Europe will almost always be dressed weights. I don't know what your 200 kg reference - dressed or live weight??
Genetics certainly has something to do with weight and size, but climatic conditions and availability of food will factor in heavily as well. I'll bet you, the mild UK climate and vicinity of agricultural food sources have a pronounced effect.
- mike
These are clean weights but with head on. The boar live in a deciduous forest but feed in crops at night.
24 January 2008, 12:31
mhoquote:
Originally posted by sewinbasher:
These are clean weights but with head on. The boar live in a deciduous forest but feed in crops at night.
That is a big boar! Dressed with heads on is pretty much how they are weighed in Continental Europe as well.
- mike
*********************
The rifle is a noble weapon... It entices its bearer into primeval forests, into mountains and deserts untenanted by man. - Horace Kephart
28 January 2008, 03:54
D99quote:
Originally posted by Faina:
Hi D99,
I wonder that in USA don't sold the good Land Rover Defender one-ten like mine!!! Are you sure???
They sold this in the U.S. in 1993, 1994, 1995 and 1997.
When you'll be back in europe, you need to come to me at hunt, so you can drive my Defender.... We'll have a lot fun!!!
Faina
You nailed the years, the word from Land Rover is that the new model defender will be imported. The reason that it is not imported anymore is that it doesn't comply with US auto safety laws concerning airbags, and with the dash being built of metal it is impossible to do.
Land Rover is stupid, they could sell tons of them in the states for what ever price they wanted, if they took the Research and Devleopement time to change the dash.
28 January 2008, 04:00
D99Looks like 2008 is the year.
Here's the new model Land Rover Defender. I don't know what it will be called in America. It looks more like a 1960's Ford Bronco than it does like a Land Rover.
And the wagon, of course I doubt it comes with the blond!
28 January 2008, 10:17
FainaBoth looks nice!!!
Yes this is the new Defender with Ford engine. It's a good compromis from traditional components and modern engine-gear.
Faina
I prefer to die standing that to live in knee
28 January 2008, 13:58
D99I just hope they import the 110 Pickup, 110 Station Wagon, and 130 double cap pickup, and 110 double cap pick up.
While the 90 is nice as usable as the other ones.
I need to get a truck, I don't really want an American truck. I guess it depends on how much the new Defender will be. I doubt the US will see any 110 or 130 crew cab pickups.
28 January 2008, 17:42
.366torquequote:
Originally posted by mouse93:

big boy that my friend's client took last Saturday on driven hunt in Croatia:
Nice animal!! What did it dress at?
28 January 2008, 18:33
mouse93120 kgs if I recollect correctly
28 January 2008, 18:51
.366torqueThanks mouse.
The boar is a hardy animal. Looks very adaptable, you must get colder winters, and with the U.S. boar populations getting closer to Canada, it looks as though there'll be "hoghunting" up here.
29 January 2008, 03:39
D99366,
Between Alberta, Sask, and Quebec farmers raising boars and having some accidental releases I am sure you will be feeding Montana, Washington, North Dakota and so on boars.
We have boars encroaching in from both ends.
03 February 2008, 20:37
10,3x60rThis is the Swiss Wild Boar, huntet frist day on season 2007.
03 February 2008, 21:52
308matequote:
Looks like 2008 is the year.
Here's the new model Land Rover Defender. I don't know what it will be called in America. It looks more like a 1960's Ford Bronco than it does like a Land Rover.
And the wagon, of course I doubt it comes with the blond!
D99 sorry but that is the 60th aniversary Defender and only 150 will be made and sold in the UK at £35,000! and still no air bags so no sales in the states. her're a few pics of my Defender
04 February 2008, 00:03
Claret_DabblerSeth, that blond hanging off the pimped landy is somewhat out of your league.
Unless I am badly mistaken, that is Zara Philips - the Queen's grandaughter..

Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they are not out to get you....
04 February 2008, 02:28
D99Dammit, I knew she was too good for me.
I look like a 33 year old Hermann Gorring so she would be out of my league even if she wasn't the Queen's granddaughter.
Poster child for Russian Mail Order Bride clients.
04 February 2008, 02:31
D99
Not sure if she is or not, either way the only way she would be in my league is with chloriform!
04 February 2008, 02:32
D99Your rig is pretty nice, a defender like that is at least $20,000 and probably closer to $35,000 in the US.
01 September 2008, 05:51
TrackersNZYeah got my butt smacked!!!!

...."At some point in every man's life he should own a Sako rifle and a John Deere tractor....it just doesn't get any better...."
01 September 2008, 05:52
TrackersNZ
...."At some point in every man's life he should own a Sako rifle and a John Deere tractor....it just doesn't get any better...."
01 September 2008, 05:54
TrackersNZ3rd try..............

...."At some point in every man's life he should own a Sako rifle and a John Deere tractor....it just doesn't get any better...."
01 September 2008, 20:59
Andre MertensTo give an idea of size relative to weight, this is a 85 kg ( 187 lbs) sow -dressed weight- I shot at a drive hunt. Normally, killing a big sow is frowned upon as they nearly always have piglets (apart from big solitary males, max allowed killing weight is 60 kg/132 lbs.) She came out alone and at full speed with dogs hot on her tail, so that I only could check her out as a sow when she was down. Accidents like this happen and are tolerated but would be fined if done on purpose.
BTW, I'm the 3rd (bottom half

from the L, carrying my lunch bag.
André
DRSS
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3 shots do not make a group, they show a point of aim or impact.
5 shots are a group.
01 September 2008, 21:24
Husqvarna M98André things happen durings hunts,
I was in the wery same situation when I took this one,
it´s my father in the pic, at oe of those rare times when he was proud of his son. I would guess the boar was about 55-65 kgs, gutted.
Single boars are notorious hard to sex, and then I dont mean in the wrong way,

I belive the saying in Sweden goes, never shoot the first or last one in the group and never the biggest one.
Best regards to you all/Chris