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26 December 2006, 02:20
murkan mike
.223 non varmint bullets
What would you reccomend as a good bullet for loading up .223 or .222 remington magnum for European Roe Deer. I have tried several varmint bullets and they really blow up and hemmorage the meat. With the exception of the barnes X in 53 grains, I can´t seem to find a good bullet in .224 for either rifle with 1 in 12 and 1 in 14 inch twists.

I hate to use remington corelokts but it looks like it is either them or the barnes X´s.

Any suggestions out there? The ballistic tips are costing me too much money in lost meat.
26 December 2006, 03:10
Buglemintoday
You should look into the Nosler Partitions. I think they make them in 50-60gr.'s

The partitions in .22 Cal seem to hold up much better then the BT's I've shot out of my .223


Good Luck


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26 December 2006, 04:47
Pete E
Mike,

I've shot a few Roe with my .223Rem using very plain Jane Hornady 55grn SPSX (#2260). The seemed to work ok and were no where near as explosive as some Hollow Points I'd used previously on Fox...

Regards,

Pete



Men of Harlech
26 December 2006, 05:31
Stonecreek
Among ordinary .224" cup-and-core bullets, the regular Hornady 55 & 60 grain lead-tipped spitzers have a reputation for holding together fairly well. Hornady also has a limited run 60 grain .224" called the "barrier" bullet that is made for police work and is intended to penetrate better than regular .224 bullets.

The the Barnes monometal (as you have already found) and the Nosler 60 grain Partition are two .224" bullets that are designed for game. You might also try the Winchester 64 grain spitzer (which they list in their factory ammunition as a "deer" bullet), or the Sierra 63 grain semi-spitzer.

I once used the old Nosler "Zippedo" to kill two whitetails with a single shot, but sadly it is no longer availabe.
27 December 2006, 16:21
scirroco
hi mike
a long tim e ago i used hornady 55g sp [not spsx] they worked very good,i have also used the barnes in 22250 they worked fantastic very little carcass damage
regards scirroco
30 December 2006, 22:33
roebuck25
I have used the 60 gr nosler partition in my howa in cal 22-250 to shoot roedeer her in norway and a copule impala and warthogs in south africa. All animals dropt in their tracks.
31 December 2006, 02:04
N. S. Sherlock
Both the Sierra 63 grain SMP and the Winchester 64 grain Power Point have good reputations for killing whitetails. Both usually shoot very well in a 12" twist 223, and I know they both were accurate in my Anschutz 14" twist 222.


"Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you" G. ned ludd
31 December 2006, 11:05
Gerry
Mike,

Good advice already on this topic and like yourself, my expereince is that factory fodder isn't optimal in these two cartridges for Roe Deer.

Some of my favorites in .222 Rem. & 223. Rem. for Roe Deer over the years have been.

In .222 Rem. the Sierra 55 gr. HPBT or SPBT Game King.

For the .223 Rem. which in my humble opinion & considerable expereince is a much better cartridge for Roe Deer than the .222 Rem. are:

Sierra 55 gr. HPBT or SPBT Game Kings,
Nosler 60 gr. Partition,
and the best of all although like the Nosler above can be finicky to tweak in some rifles is the RWS 74 gr. Kegelspitz (Cone Point) that is made for the 5.6x57(R). Accuracy isn't the one-hole cluster as with the standard range of .224" bullet weights but still @ 1"; they work perfectly with reasonable velocity which is about 2800-2900 fps in the .223 Rem. and works just fine from Fawns to large Bucks.

I tried the .22-250 Rem. - one time; not a pretty picture (O.K.; also not a statistically valid comparison) but like the 74 gr. RWS load above if you stay out of the Warp-Factor velocity range you'll have more meat left over.


Cheers,

Number 10
31 December 2006, 15:31
simonbm
Mike, I agree with Gerry. I have used sierra gamekings, they work very well beer


the nut behind the butt
10 January 2007, 19:43
justanothernorwegian
I did not like the Barnes TSX in my 22-250. Trophy bonded performed well in the 5 roe deer bucks I have shot with it. Accuracy is not great, but more than good enough.


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11 January 2007, 22:41
murkan mike
I appreciate the response. I ordered from Graf and Sons in the US, both the Nosler 60 grain partition, and the Barnes. I can´t wait to try them out and see which ones work best, but that will have to wait until May, when roebuck season opens up.

I wanted to find a good bullet to use with my .223, but wanted to find one that matched the 55g FMJ bullet in dimension, so I could swap between the bullet types. Has ayone had any experience with this?