Using slugs on roe and boar?

08 August 2002, 22:40

308winchester

Have you used slugs on Roe or boar?
If you have, what slugs and how did they work.
Do you like slugs?
With what kind of choke can you use slugs. I have a Emilio Rizzini Hunter with 1/4 1/2 3/4 and 1 chokes. I mostly use the 1/4 and 1/2, are they okay with slugs? The barrels are presurre tested to 1400(bar?)

Johan

08 August 2002, 23:16

King Baboon

This is what I can share of my vast experience of smooth barrel big game hunting : I killed a 80 kg sow with a solengo 12 ga slug, brain shot at 15 m, went completely through the skull, pig dropped immediately of course. My shotgun is 1/4 - 3/4, and the solengo is probably the best slug to shoot in narrow shokes, due to its plastic rear part.
My brother uses brenneke and sauvestre slugs (french made, arrow-bullet type) in his 20 ga drilling on battues, and he wounds a lot [Frown]

. When he kills, you can bet he threw the 9.3, not the slug.
He has a beautiful side-by-side 9.3X74, and he insists on taking the f-----g drilling [Mad]

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My point is, rifles are made for big game and shotguns for small game, and I find those polybarrel/polycaliber weapon quite pointless.

To answer your question (I don't know which type of slugs are available in Norway), 1/4 and 1/2 should be ok with standard brenneke slugs.

08 August 2002, 23:49

<Made in Sweden>

generally itï¿½s said that itï¿½s OK to fire slugs in up to 1/2 choke. At least thats what Remington, and some other manufacturers told me. But I guess its like everything else, they have to have margins not to risk a lawsuit, wich lends me to believe it might be OK in a tighter choke.

10 August 2002, 20:37

Saad

quote:
Originally posted by King Baboon:
This is what I can share of my vast experience of smooth barrel big game hunting ....

My shotgun is 1/4 - 3/4, and the solengo is probably the best slug to shoot in narrow shokes, due to its plastic rear part.

King Baboon,

What type is this solengo slug?

quote:
My brother uses brenneke and sauvestre slugs (french made, arrow-bullet type) in his 20 ga drilling on battues, and he wounds a lot .

What is the reason here? 20 guage or the type of slug or poor shooting. [Confused]

Thanks

Saad

13 August 2002, 09:24

King Baboon

Shikaree:

The solengo is a french design (I think). The slug is made from hard lead, with a copper head that works as an expansion initiator : on impact the bullet will spread out in four parts. The rear part is made of plastic and so the chokes are not damaged.
Reason why my brother wounds a lot? I think that's the 20 ga. I think the caliber - and the type of weapon - are very inappropriate to shoot at big tough running pigs past 50 meters.

04 September 2002, 09:46

aHunter

I shot several pigs up to now, but only one with Brenneke. I saw ( or heard ) LOTS of Brenneke ( slug ) shots, most were misses.

The angled flanges on the original Brenneke are there to fold down so the projectile might pass the choke. Still one should not regularly shoot through full choke.

The original Brenneke has a MUCH better reputation than the US type ( Foster? ) slugs.

The Sauvestre is recommended only for modern guns, but has a good reputation. Its extremely expensive. If I test fire and shoot a right/left twice, I have to buy another pack for the next hunt. It should be packed in 10 boxes.

Purely from energy figures: the 20/70 is rather weak. If using 20/76 this is much better. It may be painful as most 20ï¿½s are built rather light. Standard is 12/70 ( RWS: 12/67, which might also be used in shorter chambers ).

Just my .02. Hermann

06 September 2002, 01:21

Steve Malinverni

Oh noooo please,
Let us Italian have some good development in hunting components. Solengo is Italian produced by Gualandi, if I remember well the producer.
It is the name attributed to the old male wild boar. It means in aulic Italian "solitary living" as the old male boars do.
bye

06 September 2002, 02:47

Steve Malinverni

About the topic, I don't like to think to use shotgun for roe buck hunt, normally the distance is over the well working distance of a shotgun. Better for boar in a thick wood, shooting at running game at short distance.
And I always prefer rifle, moreover and however,
bye

06 September 2002, 03:37

King Baboon

quote:
Originally posted by Steve Malinverni:
Oh noooo please,
Let us Italian have some good development in hunting components. Solengo is Italian.

Sorry about that Stefano. Good product, even though it is italian [Wink]

06 September 2002, 06:54

Steve Malinverni

Once I heard that some American wants to patent the name pizza, beliving that it is American.
[Roll Eyes]

Better defend brands till they are Italian.
Even thought that is Italian?
Well as Madonna says Italian do it better..... and she seems to be expert [Big Grin]

bye

06 September 2002, 10:17

Orion 1

Are you gentlemen aware that here in the USA, it is popular to use shotguns with FULLY RIFLED barrels for shooting slugs? We use sabot slugs in rifled shotguns. This came to be because there are some areas in the US where centerfire rifles are not allowed for deer hunting. These are smaller and/or more populated states like Massachussetts and Ohio.

Anyway, a pump shotgun with an optical sight and a fully rifled barrel is formidable weapon for large game out to about 100 to 150 meters, depending on the slug's initial velocity and trajectory.

Here's a picture of sabot slugs:

Here's a link to another American maker of sabot slugs:
Polywad Ammunition

Here's a picture of the Ithaca Model 37 Deerslayer II slug gun. The barrel if free floated, fully rifled from breech to muzzle, and permanently attached to the receiver. The receiver is already drilled and threaded for mounting a scope:

And here's the Deerslayer III, with a longer, heavier barrel for more accuracy:

06 September 2002, 20:08

Saad

KB and Stefano,

Thanks for information.

Here, we have mostly French and German cartridges available. In slugs VIRI is a great performer, available in Brenekke and hollow point styles. But I am not sure who are the designers French, German or Italian.. [Wink]

28 September 2008, 02:03

carcano91

Gualandi have now set out to conquer Germany. RWS / Rottweil, in their quest to distance themselves legally and emotonally from Brenneke, are now loading the palla Gualandi as "Rottweil Exact", proclaiming it to be the most precise slug cartridge ever from RWS. Probably true :-). And they sell it cheaper than Brenneke, true.

Carcano

26 October 2008, 13:40

Artemis1

I've used almost all slugs on the market and Gualandi, RWS and Win Partition sabot were the best to me. It is not fair to say which one is the most accurate because some guns like Gualandi some RWS.
From my 35 years old O/U Baikal I've tried them all from both barrels 1/1 & 3/4 choke. Also I've tried them from modern semi auto and pump action guns as well.
All slugs were good up to 50m but some kills were beyond 100m. Many boars were killed without loses but I agree that the rifle is more appropriate weapon in right cal. with right bullet.
Also choked barrels are not great for tight groups with slugs ,however they could fire all lead slugs without the problem.