Hi
If you can help me with some onformation about this round . thanks
danny

The 6 x 52 R Bretschneider is one of the more superfluous wildcats of the last years. As if the factory-produced 5,6 x 52 R and 6,5 x 52 R did not already cover the field sufficiently.

Roe deer cartridge for single-shot rifles and insert barrels.

Regards,
Carcano

Danny,

I haven't handled a 6x52R yet, but it seems to gain popularity in Germany. There may be some DEVA loading data, and you can buy loading dies from Triebel (expensive). Loaded cartridges should be offered by Bretschneider, in Ingolstadt, Bavaria.
Do a Google search for Bretschneider 6x52R.

There was an article in issue 05/2000 of Deutsche Jagdzeitung, try www.djz.de/artikelbeitrag/artikelbeitrag_3130.html

I always liked the 5.6x52R (.22 Sav.). It has a nice comeback now in Germany. But for a handloader, it will always be handicapped by limited bullet choice.
The 6.5x52R (.25-35 Win.) was a nice cartridge, too, but is practically obsolete. S&B offers one load for it.
I see quite some sense behind the Bretschneider cartridge.

Regards,
Martin

[ 05-22-2003, 10:56: Message edited by: martin f ]

Hi Martin
It would do a nice caliber f�r break open guns .thanks
Danny

Interesting that you mention the .25-35 Win. I recently acquired an old Winchester rifle in that caliber, but I never would have known it was a 6.5x52R! Dumb American, eh? At any rate, the caliber is quite obsolete here in the USA. Quite difficult to find cartridges, though Winchester does manufacture one load. I am currently working up loads and am going to try cast bullets. I intend to use this rifle/cartridge for Pronghorn this fall.

[ 05-24-2003, 02:55: Message edited by: Arts ]

Danny,

there is also a 6x50R Scheiring, based on the 5.6x50R, see www.wildundhund.de/artikelbeitrag/artikelbeitrag_2714.html
This seems to be quite popular in Austria.
For a light combination gun, I'd also think about the 7-30 Waters - or simply take the 7x57R.

Arts,

yes, the .25-35 was one of the few American cartridges over here. But this was long ago.
The 6.5x52R was made obsolete after WWII.

Martin

Hi Martin
It was even more intresting. I have an old brno fox which i like the mecanism,but barrel is near expiring and as I understod this 6x50 is based on 5,6x50 r which is simillar to 222 rem in base diameter. i may think to convert(rebarrel) it to this new round in case cartridges oal do not exceed the magazin length. These mild 6 mms has an edge over those super speed ones ,they simply don't ruin the good meat and have a relatively good trajectory. Are there any German or Austrian CO making rounds or reloading tools for these calibers?
best regards
danny

Danny,

you are right about base diameter of the 6x50R.
But the Brno Fox is a bolt action (now in .222 Rem., I guess?), so you would need a rimless case.
There is one, too: 6x51 Atzl, a 5.6x50 (rimless) necked up.
Atzl is a gunsmith in Austria (Kufstein, Tirol I think), specialising in benchrest accuracy rifles.
His cartridge and rifles seem to be regarded highly in Austrian hunters rifle competitions.
And Triebel in Germany offers reamers for the cartridges we talked about here.
Some time ago I also read that some wildcatter in Denmark (I think) had created a similar 6x50.

Regards,
Martin