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The 3rd AR UK Stalking Weekend!!!
03 August 2009, 14:07
Fallow BuckThe 3rd AR UK Stalking Weekend!!!
Gents,
I seem to have finally got to an offer for you all to come & join us for a weekend of fun and festiviites in Feb 2010.
As previously discussed we will be attending a new venue in Suffolk this year which will have Roe Does and Muntjac available to us. I am still awaiting for the availability on the Red Hinds so I shall keep you posted on that front, but they will be limited.
The weekend of 19th to 21st Feb 2010 and the cost for the basic package will be £400 to include the following:
1. 3 Outings In A High Seat, (Friday Evening & Saturday Mng & Evening)
2· Full Board Accomodation including Bed Breakfast and Dinner. Rooms will be shared probably between 2-3.
3· Some Snacks Through The Day At Shooting Lodge
4· Drinks, Including Beer, Wine And Soft Drinks (You all know the form by now!!

)
5· A rifle Range May be set up
6· Trophy Fees for all Mubntjac Does
7. One Muntjac Buck Per Hunter of any trophy Quality you are lucky enough to get or one Roe Doe.
The price does NOT include:
1· Hotel Accommodation for Thursday Night
2· Transfers From Home/Airport To The Lodge And Back
3· Rifle Import Permits, (Additional £25)
4· Rifle & Ammunition To Be Supplied By Each Individual
5· Trophy Fees For Muntjac Bucks Or Roe Does £65 Flat Fee
6· Venison To Be Taken Home , (May Be Bought From The Estate)
7. Cartridges for pigeoon Shooting may be bought from the estates gunshop.
8· Anything Else That Isn't Included That I Forgot To Add Here!!!
For the same price (£400) you can go pigeon Shooting on the Saturday and Sunday, (No Stalking Friday night). You will need your own decoys/Magnet and Hide, although I might be able to arrange something with enough notice.
The other option is for those that wish to do the stalking package and shoot pigeons on the Sunday this will be an extra £75, (£475 total).
The list of interested parties at present stands as Follows:
Fallow Buck.......CONF
MHO...............CONF Deer
Gerry.............CONF Deer & Pigeons
Griff.............CONF Pigeons Only
Solvi.............CONF Deer & Pigeon
308 Mate..........CONF Deer
Arild.............CONF Deer
Husqvarna98
Claret Dabbler....CONF Deer & Pigeon
Anders............CONF Deer
Trapper...........CONF Deer & Pigeon
Smallbore.........CONF Deer & Pigeon
Ghubert...........CONF Deer
KimR..............CONF Deer & Pigeons
London Hunter.....CONF Deer & Pigeons
One Armed Bandit..CONF Deer
Steve Malverni....CONF Deer
IanF + Artemis....CONF Pigeons
StuC..............CONF Deer
Please reply with a confirmation that you wish to join the weekend as soon as you can please. I will need to know the following in your reply:
If you wish to shoot Deer / Deer+Pigeons / or just pigeons
Do you need a temporary import permit?
The Spaces are limited so we will run a reserve list in the event that we are over subscribed. The best airport for your arrival/departure will be Stanstead.
Rgds,
K
03 August 2009, 14:19
Small BoreI'm in - sticking to 6.5 but this year I have a T.T Proctor in 6.5x57 instead of the old Mannlicher Schoener stutzen.
I'll try not to drop it out of a tree the week before we go

03 August 2009, 14:20
GhubertPut me down for Deer mate.
I promise not to bring a .270.
By the way, thank you for organising this mate.
A
03 August 2009, 14:21
Ghubertquote:
Originally posted by Small Bore:
I'm in - sticking to 6.5 but this year I have a T.T Proctor in 6.5x57 instead of the old Mannlicher Schoener stutzen.
Very nice!
quote:
Originally posted by Small Bore:
I'll try not to drop it out of a tree the week before we go
Well, accidents happen. Dropping and breaking it however, now who would do such a thing.....

03 August 2009, 14:55
Claret_DabblerKiri, I'm in.
Deer and Pigeons (maybe).
Don't need an import permit, I might even have a new rifle instead of that nasty 270win.
Smallbore, a Procter 6.5x57? You are a gentleman of refinement and taste. I hope it doesn't get rained on....
Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they are not out to get you....
03 August 2009, 15:47
Fallow Buckquote:
Smallbore, a Procter 6.5x57? You are a gentleman of refinement and taste. I hope it doesn't get rained on....
Shall I put you two down as room mates?
FB
03 August 2009, 15:57
GhubertThey have already, in their own way, made their wishes clear FB.
Lets not make them feel any more uncomfortable eh?
Live and let live and all that.....
A
03 August 2009, 15:57
Jon2Kiri
A great trip in the offing once again and it is very commendable that you take the time and effort to put this together for everyone.
I would love to come along, actually for just the pigeons, however purely due to the commitments I have with the other ground I have and limited time etc etc I will have to decline so please knock me off the list.
I am sure you will, yet again, have a brilliant time and at a different venue which sounds very interesting.
Best as always
JB
03 August 2009, 19:08
308mateSounds great Kiri, I will be there (Deer only)
Brian, sounds like another road trip????

Aaron
03 August 2009, 19:47
KimRK,im in, probably stalking+picciones depending on my accomplices.cant bring a bag of decoys on the plane.is last yrs TPF still good?Thanks for another go at it.BEST,kim
03 August 2009, 20:04
Claret_Dabblerquote:
Originally posted by 308mate:
Sounds great Kiri, I will be there (Deer only)
Brian, sounds like another road trip????

Aaron
Roadtrip?

I was in front of a judge in Cumbria this morning as a result of the last bloody road trip. Haven't heard the outcome yet.
We'll plan transport nearer the time.
Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they are not out to get you....
03 August 2009, 20:31
GhubertI'm shocked and offended that you did not ask any of us for character references!!!
hope it went ok btw, did you lay on that famous straight-talking charm by any chance?

03 August 2009, 21:32
brass thiefLadies and gentlemen, it is with deep sadness and regret that I have to say that I"m getting married (and can"t come this time.)
As some of you know, I moved to Canada and have 2 trips to the uk planned in the coming months and can"t manage a third. I know this one is going to be a fantastic weekend, and wish everyone success and a fun and safe trip.
I hope to resume attendance in 2011!
03 August 2009, 22:05
Claret_Dabblerquote:
Originally posted by brass thief:
Ladies and gentlemen, it is with deep sadness and regret that I have to say that I"m getting married (and can"t come this time.)
As some of you know, I moved to Canada and have 2 trips to the uk planned in the coming months and can"t manage a third. I know this one is going to be a fantastic weekend, and wish everyone success and a fun and safe trip.
I hope to resume attendance in 2011!
Sam, is that "sadness and regret" that you are getting hitched, or that you can't make the bash?

To be fair, it is a bit of a hike from Alberta...
Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they are not out to get you....
03 August 2009, 22:22
brass thiefAll of the above!

03 August 2009, 22:23
brass thiefI should"nt say that, I"m trying to get her to buy a shotgun but she"s looking at buying her 2nd rifle.

OK, "CONF" for "deer only" from over here... (YEEHAA - we are going hunting again :-).
If Gerry signs up, I guess I can put up with his snoring again (or he with mine - as it may be...

).
- mike
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The rifle is a noble weapon... It entices its bearer into primeval forests, into mountains and deserts untenanted by man. - Horace Kephart
04 August 2009, 03:19
solviIs it ok to bring over a Rem 11/87 semi auto for the pigeons?
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solvijoh
04 August 2009, 13:07
Fallow BuckSolvi,
The semi auto will be fine. In fact many guys I know that shoot large numbers of pigeons prefer a semi as it is light on the shoulder for the high number of shells they sometimes have to fire.
Rgds,
K
04 August 2009, 17:46
Trapper DaveI'm looking forwards to it.
Solvi, let me know well in advance if you want picking up from Airport en route!
Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened. Sir Winston Churchill
04 August 2009, 18:20
GhubertGood point Dave, I live 45 minutes away from Heathrow, if anyone needs picking up let me know.
Regards,
Amir
05 August 2009, 15:47
1894mk2quote:
Originally posted by Small Bore:
I'm in - sticking to 6.5 but this year I have a T.T Proctor in 6.5x57 instead of the old Mannlicher Schoener stutzen.
I'll try not to drop it out of a tree the week before we go
That must be Ken Griffins old rifle?
06 August 2009, 04:14
Small Borecorrect.
07 August 2009, 19:56
Fallow BuckRighto Guys,
Just spoke to Gerry and he's also confirmed. Could anyone else that has not confirmed on this thread also post here please just for good orders sake given that previous shouts of "I'm In!!!" were before I posted all details.
Thanks,
K
09 August 2009, 23:05
Arild IversenKiri.
I confirm deer only.
No pidgeons this time.
Due to limited seats from Norway to Stansted on friday morning, I will most likely be over on thursday night.
Will there be accomodation available at the Manor from thursday to friday as well?
Or do I have to make other arangements for this single night?
Arild Iversen.
10 August 2009, 02:23
Fallow BuckArild
I'll check but I'm sure there hould be someting that we can sort out for you.
Rgds,
K
10 August 2009, 13:13
Fallow BuckGents,
Accomodation is available on the Thursday evening for those that want it.
The additional Cost will be £55, and I will arrange somewhere for us to go out for dinner locally that night if we want to get together. Alternatively I'll put something together for us on location.
Rgds,
K
10 August 2009, 19:23
Arild IversenThats great Kiri, looks like I´m over on Thursday.
Arild Iversen.
11 August 2009, 02:40
Fallow BuckArild,
What did you think of my idea of starting on the Fallow before moving up to Suffolk?
K
11 August 2009, 03:22
ONE ARMED BANDITKiri,
Count me in mate for deer.
Many thanks
11 August 2009, 11:51
Arild Iversenquote:
Originally posted by Fallow Buck:
Arild,
What did you think of my idea of starting on the Fallow before moving up to Suffolk?
K
Good idee, but it depends on air tickets.
Looking around right now.
If I find some within budget I´m on.
This looks like it gonna be one heck of a loooong weekend

Arild Iversen.
18 August 2009, 14:13
Steve Malinverniconfirmed for deers,
but may I change mind and wish to shoot pigeons and deer in the future?
Is the European passport for guns valid also for England? (this question is for the EU friends )?
bye
Stefano
Waidmannsheil
18 August 2009, 14:48
GerryGuys & Gals,
On-line again, very much looking forward to seeing you all next year.

mike -

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Cheers,
Number 10
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Malinverni:
Is the European passport for guns valid also for England? (this question is for the EU friends )?
Steve, not resident in an EU country, but nevertheless...
When we applied for our UK visitor's firerams licences last year, EU firearms passes were supposed to be forwarded to the UK authorities for stamping. I guess that does include the UK in countries associated with the system of the EU license.
It is otherwise a somewhat incomprehensible system. Some countries (e.g. the UK and Sweden, I believe) still require their own national firearms licensing be applied on top of the EU system for visiting sportsmen. Some countries (e.g. Germany) seem to have finally accepted the idea that the EU pass should suffice (at least for firearms in transit), and some countries (e.g. Hungary) allow entry with firearms included on the pass with no additional national license issued.
I have a feeling the "official" idea is to have the EU pass forwarded to the authorities of the country you intend to visit, and have them stamp the pass for verification. To me, this has always seemed a rather risky approach with an official permit - in partcular one as expensive as the EU pass is...
- mike
*********************
The rifle is a noble weapon... It entices its bearer into primeval forests, into mountains and deserts untenanted by man. - Horace Kephart
18 August 2009, 15:11
SIKA98K[/QUOTE]
To me, this has always seemed a rather risky approach with an official permit - in partcular one as expensive as the EU pass is...
- mike[/QUOTE]
Sorry ! Expensive ? Are they not issued free ?
They are at least in Rep.of Ireland,Denmark and Sweden.
Anyone have to pay actual loot for theirs ?
18 August 2009, 15:45
Fallow BuckGents,
For the record the process for impoting firearms for sporting purposes into the UK is fairly simple and has the following requirements.
The application has to be made by your UK sponsor which will be me. You will need to send me the details I need (name, address DOB etc which I will inform you of shortly), on a sheet of paper along with proof that you are authorised to hold a firearm in your home country. If you are in the EU then you also need to send me your original of your European Firearms pass.
I will make a package up for each individual and send it to my licencing authority. They will issue the permit and send all the docs back to me, and I will forward onto you. The permit is valid for a year and can have several guns on it so I reccomend that you all apply for a couple of rifles and a shotgun in case you might come back later in the year.
This has been a fairly straight forward process in the past so although I cannot guarentee that your pass will not get lost I can promise that I will send it at all times by registered [signed for] courrier or post to make it as safe as possible for you.
An interesting comment on the EFP by Mike that it is expensive. Here in the UK it is free to anyone holding a shotgun or firearm certificate.... Not often we get to point score on our foregn friends licencing proceedures!!!

As an aside, the only thing that is a real risk to getting this done properly and in time is how quickly you get the docs to me in the first place so if I get everything in a timely manner then I'll take care of it this end.
Rgds,
K
18 August 2009, 15:49
Fallow BuckSteve,
You can change your mind closer to the date providing there are enough places left for pigeon shooters.
The estate are able to provide built hides for clients but decoys etc should be provided by individuals on the whole. There are some available to rent but most times i tend to just use the shot birds and we can arrange that for you perhaps with some frozen birds from the previous days sessions.
Rgds
K
18 August 2009, 16:41
Steve MalinverniThank you Mike,
I do not really like the idea to send an official document in another country to have it back with a stamp, if it goes loosed I have to spend a lot of time to get a new one and there are probably a lot of troubles because it could be considered a no or little care management.
But I know also that I've been checked at Heathrow airport. In Italy the EU citizen just exibit the passport or a Identity document passing at the police check point but normally there are not strict checks.
@ SIKA98K
In Italy it is necessary to pay about 30€ in Government stamps, beeing the EU Gun passport considered like a licence.
bye
Stefano
Waidmannsheil
18 August 2009, 16:44
Steve MalinverniOK Kiri,
you answered while I was at lunch with the post still not completed.

Thank you
bye
Stefano
Waidmannsheil