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Varmint Caliber Recommendation?
Varmint Caliber Recommendation?
Which is a better varmint cartridge?
A 375 H&H
or
A 416 Rigby?
What type of action would you recommend?
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01 June 2003, 02:12
woodseyeI would prefer either in a pump action with match king bullets.If larger than PD I would give the 416 the nod as you just can't have too much knock-down power!
woods
01 June 2003, 02:45
Bob in TX.577 T-Rex
01 June 2003, 04:04
Rem. 222one of my favorites is the 50BMG necked down to .17cal.
Rem. 222
01 June 2003, 04:34
<Jayboid>Now, don't laugh, but an old cartridge called the .22 Hi-Power correctly loaded with the .228 sized bullet is performing very well. I shoot this out of a Savage 99. I doubt this rifle had more than 15 rounds put through it before it came to me. The Sellier & Bellot 5.6 x 52 are loaded much too hot for this rifle. This caused very poor groups. Since experimenting with handloads, this old wall hanger of a rifle is staying with my Rem. 722, in .222 Rem. BTW....This website helped me in the quest to bring the old thing back to life.
01 June 2003, 04:38
carcano91quote:
Originally posted by Jayboid:
Now, don't laugh, but an old cartridge called the .22 Hi-Power correctly loaded with the .228 sized bullet is performing very well.
Sure.
In Germany, it is still (or again) a very popular roe deer cartridge, mostly used in combined weapons, under its metric denomination 5,6 x 52 R.
Carcano
01 June 2003, 08:00
<Jayboid>Carcano
Oddly enough, with the exception of this site, the round known as the Savage Hi-Power was a very hard one to find info on. Had many a gun shop folks tell me there was no such animal.
In Germany, do they shoot this round in a bolt type action? The Savage 99 is a rotary type magazine in lever action, which should be able to handle the higher powered Euro load. The S&B brass is hard to load, (at least for me) with the Norma virgin brass not too much better. Going to begin reforming 30-30 brass to see if this helps.
01 June 2003, 08:11
muskratgentlemen,
i saw the 50 bmg necked down to .17 caliber mentioned in one of the above post.i assumed it was a joke, but Dave Davison at CH dies made such a set dies for a man to settle a bet. the loaded round now sits on dave's desk now.i believe i remember dave telling us it cost over a $1000 u.s.
to win the bet!
muskrat
all gun laws suck!fight against all of them!!!!
THIS post was made for HUMOR'S SAKE ONLY!
Just thought a little fun might be in order since everyone gets so serious, criticizing some of the other posts and peoples opinion.
I personally don't shoot varmints with anything bigger than a 340 Weatherby
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01 June 2003, 14:16
DigitalDanYou should. Try the .416 w/ an inverted HBWC...just for humor's sake.
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01 June 2003, 14:25
crow_waxeri would like to see a coyote nailed with a .416 rigby, or a 600 nitro.
"Keep your stick on the ice"
01 June 2003, 15:02
<Big Stick>No flies on the 375H&H Ackley pushing 235gr Speer's. Those bullets aren't wired together very well and are suprisingly frangible and make for great practice.
Food for thought,though a tad more serious than the original query suggests...............
02 June 2003, 08:44
<Jayboid>Yes, the world needs more humor. A while back for some odd reason I had lots of energy, and handloaded some V-Max .222 Rems. I think they were in 40gr. Love the look of those red tipped bullets. Virgin brass, pretty little buggers. Probably mumbling "yotes" beware as I loaded them. Not stopping there, I decided to bench shoot my Remington 722, with the newly loaded rounds. Then decided for another odd reason to completely tear down the rifle and clean it. You fellers probably have had these impromptu wonderful sessions at times too. After carefully boxing up the handloaded rounds, I packed them away in my house. I then, went to pick up the shiny clean rifle, and decided to have a seat on the deck and relax for a while. My loading area is in a garage about 40� from the house, with a deck in between. Out of the corner of my eye, I saw two non-mangy Coyotes meandering across the field, not at a trot, but close to it. Broadside at that. In complete daylight, not 60 yards away. Instantly I knew I had the perfect rifle sitting right on my picnic table not 2� from me, but the cartridges could have been in China as far as this situation. With my eyes tearing up, I placed the x-hairs on the lead Yote, and said bang! Said other things too, as I watched them trot over the ridge.
02 June 2003, 14:33
mr.bigI killed a couple of groundhogs with my 300 RUM and 125 NBT`s at almost 3900fps.
06 June 2003, 17:07
the dog hunter 2Now you got me thinking, as so happens I have a 416 rigby sitting in my safe, I bought this gun over ten years ago, at very good price 150 bucks. It came complete with loaded amo from Asquare. Now I have never shot this gun What would it due to a coyote? Mabey I could pretend I was in a far off land shooting wild game! Thats it now I have a good reason to shoot it!
quote:
Originally posted by Carcano91:
In Germany, it is still (or again) a very popular roe deer cartridge,
The following is posted with humorous intent.
So anyway, which is bigger, the Prairie Dog, or the Roe Deer?
Which could be considered the most dangerous if wounded? Do I need to have the guide back me up with his particular arm of choice?
Is the .577 T-Rex enough gun under these circumstances or should we carry PNs? (Personal Nukes.)

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07 June 2003, 01:58
chuckdusterIf you listen to the guys on this site it really doesnt matter what caliber you shoot as long as it is a Savage rifle. What a joke!!!!!