I posted this under optics as well, but as it is a varmint scope I thought I'd post here also. I apologize in advance if that is bad form .

I got gifted a scope today in lieu of payment on a debt I really didn't think warranted any payment at all. At any rate, never having had one I thought I'd ask you guys what I have? Don't hold back, the good , the bad and the ugly .
Big tall turrets (yuck!!). Made in Thailand which is a country whose name just resonates with optics maker confidence in my book .
Adjustable objective from 50 to 1000 yards. Duplex reticle , matte finish.
Discontinued as far as I can tell but I was told they have a good warranty.
Do I sell it at my next garage sale or put it on a rifle?
Totally unfamiliar with it, opinions???

Box it up and ship it to Seafire's House in Oregon....

You don't want that old thing..

Send it here and then I will have TWO...

Can put it on the 17 Fireball I am building on a Rem 700 Action and it will match the other rifle I have it on, a 223 on a 700 action...

then neither of them will be lonely!


( and if ya don't wanna do that...it is a FINE scope in my opinion...)

Nikon Monarch's are some of the best glass out there. They are at or near the top of the "best bang for the buck" list. I have three, one of the new model's and two of the previous generation.

Enjoy!

Bob

Doug, What seafire said only send it to GHD! That particular model of Nikon Monarch is what I have been using on the 204 ever since it was new and it has been dialed up and down countless times and is still right on. Prior to the 204 it was on a 25-06 Sendero and a 6mm and functioned for years on them with no problems. They now make the Moncarchs with Side Focus and the models are 5-20 and 6-24 x50. As far as the tall turrets go, the scope probably came with "target turrets" that you can replace those turrets that have the caps on them and then just "dial and dust" without having to remove a cover plus the target turrets are easier to see and read than the standard turrets. Give it a try and you may be very pleasantly surprised. Charlie (GHD)

just ignore seafire and GHD I will dispose of it for you and even pay the postage

If you're willing to trade ,I have a 6-24 X 50 Barska I'd be willing to part with. roger

Doug, I'd offer you $100 for it, but I would go to hell for stealing. Damn fine scope, in my opinion.

Hey,

I 'saw' it first guys...

plus I'll give you two of Rogers Barskas for it..

heck.. I'll even let Larry send you a $100.00 and put in a good word for him with the man upstairs..

and as soon as I am finished with it, I promise to send it to GHD with instructions for him to send it to Butchloc when he is done with it...

see then everyone should be satisfied...

Doug I have the same scope on my HS Precision 204 varmint. Mine came with a whole bunch of extra turret styles, so I can send you one of of the extra pair if you like, bout an inch high. FS

Thanks seafire, I need all the good words up there I can get!

Not a bad send off from you guys about my gift scope, thanks for the input .
Actually it's from a fella I hunt with a lot and have done a good deal of reloading and load development for mostly using my components (not something I do for most but he's a great friend/hunting buddy and doesn't reload).
At any rate he bought a rifle with a VariXII 3X9 on it and a box of externals for a price that might well get him to the place Larry mentioned for theft. I told him he shoulda had a mask on when he gave the guy the money and took the stuff.
Actually to show you how lucky some guy's can get (and to make ya all feel bad really , ). He got a fancy factory engraved 700BDL 7MM Remington Mag (I've never seen one like it as it looks like a fine factory engraving all over the action and bottom metal, real purty wood (except for Remingtons hard gloss finish, yuck) and with a Pachmayer Decelerator recoil pad (CDL??).
Long story short this scope was in the box the guy gave him and he has no use for it so when he dropped off the 7 Mag for me to work up some reduced loads for his son to hunt with he handed me the scope and asked "can you use this? I got no use for the big booger". In the box was also another 3X9 Leupold VariXII 3X9, and a Nikon Range Finder plus he stated "some other stuff". He paid $400.00 "REALLY" , no it isn't stolen, the fella he bought it off of is just what you might call "well positioned" (my buddy guides some and he's good at it). Amazing huh?

As to loads for his sons new Remington, (that he stole with the scopes ). I'm starting with two 140 grain loads using starting loads of IMR4064 pushing a 140 Nosler Partition in one and 140 grain Barnes X bullets in the other, both projectiles I had in stock. I'm hoping for acceptable accuracy at 2,8000 to 2,9000ish FPS. so a small but ranch tough 90 lb 12 year old kid can use a 7 mag for a deer and more importantly elk rifle without developing a flinch.
That's how the whole thing came to pass (not that any one but me cares) but it sounds like I got an ok Varmint scope out a the deal except I'm not real fond of big tall target turrets scratching everything in the safe and hanging up in gun cases etc. etc. I have looked through it outside now and sure don't see much to complain about even if it was produced in Thailand.
This is probably the wrong forum for this babble but here and small caliber forums are the one's I hang out at. Thanks again and other opinions are still welcome.

P.S.
As to all the kind offers of my paying it forward as it were and especially the most gracious offers of trades...uh?...uh?...uh?... NO!!!

I'm not sure, but you may fall around 26,000 fps short of your velocity goal.

Ooops, I meant 5.2 lbs of 4064 .
Never was much on a keyboard. Thanks.

I just recently purchased the same scope and it is the first Nikon I ever owned, having been a Leupold fan for many years. I must say that I was surprised by the quality and clarity of the Nikon scope and will be mounting it on my Rem 700 VLS in 223 rem. I have a Burris (4X12) on it now but wanted more magnification. I looked at Burris, Bushnell 6200,Leupold, and Nikon. For the money I thought Nikon was the best buy and Leupold refusing to allow dealers to decide their own pricing, decide to give Nikon a shot. I'll be mounting it soon and getting out there before many of the varmints hibernate.I'll let you all know if I,m happy with it or not.

Thanks Pathfinder I'll look forward to seeing how you like it.
I did find out what the rifle is and took a trip to the range today with the test loads.
The rifle is a model 700 "Custom Deluxe Enhanced" according to Remington. Quite a mouthful huh? Made in 1999.
I stuck 52 grain of IMR 4064 in RP cases with 9 1/2M primers and loaded 6 each of the 140 Barnes X (about 2 1/2 to 3 inch 3 shot groups, never seen them shoot well in anything) but the 140 Nosler Partitions were a whole nuther story . one group was between 1/2 and 3/4 inch and the other was right under 3/4 inch, gosh I love it when it works great first try.
Really unusual is the fact that the Nosler book showed that load as a starting, and most accurate load of 4064 and claimed 2,880 FPS I believe for velocity. In this rifle the mean velocity was 2,867 and the SD was 9. A guys hardly ever that close in velocity to the book and I can see why it was the accuracy load for that powder, lucky me. It accomplished just what I'd hoped for for this lad, a duplicate of a .270 / .7-08 class 7MM using the 140 partitions I already had. Oughta do a right nice job on elk out to 200 to 250ish farther than that probably but knowing his dad 250 would be the end of the earth and it'll more likely be in the 100 to 150 range tops. It's sure a lotta fun helping young hunters get started hunting. And to think "my" first big game rifle was an old 6.5X55 Swede carbine with a sporting trigger and Lyman aperture sight. Oh well, killed a lotta deer and elk with it even if it wasn't near this purty.

Now all I need is a new rifle to hang that scope on . Thanks for the info guys.

So Doug...

I guess that this means I should quit watching my mail box for it to show up?

If a box shows up ole buddy make sure it ain't ticking.

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Originally posted by montdoug:
If a box shows up ole buddy make sure it ain't ticking.

oh, I get those all the time...

as Elvis said, I just:
" Return the Sender, Address Unknown.. NO Such Number...No Such Zone"

So when you mail me that Monarch...remember not to throw you old Timex in there with it is all...

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Originally posted by seafire2:

quote:

Originally posted by montdoug:
If a box shows up ole buddy make sure it ain't ticking.

oh, I get those all the time...

as Elvis said, I just:
" Return the Sender, Address Unknown.. NO Such Number...No Such Zone"



So when you mail me that Monarch...remember not to throw you old Timex in there with it is all...

Don't got no Timex's and you ain't getting your paws on my new gift scope . So if it's ticking and you don't want it just forward it on to a liberal friend

well I guess I'll just have to pony up and buy one...

as far as a liberal 'friend'.. I don't keep friends who are liberals...

however I know a few liberal buttheads I can substitute

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Originally posted by seafire2:
well I guess I'll just have to pony up and buy one...

I got a real clean used one I'll sell ya for $300.00 .

FWIW, I have a glossy Nikon Monarch 6.5-20 x44 AO that has a fine cross hair reticle. Scope is 99%. Mounted only, never shot. I am looking to trade for something smaller.

eljefe64@gmail.com

Yo Seafire, talk to this man.
I was just kidding of course and intend to hang on to mine for another small caliber project I've got in the works to be finished before next spring, a .17 Tactical. Shooting 30 grain projectiles at 4,000FPS+ at yon p-dog, rockchuck and coyote I can use all the power I can get and it appears these are fairly popular scopes with the owners of em.

I would cream my pants if someone gave me that scope. Its what Im looking at to put on my next rig.I like my nikons over my leupold that costs twice as much.

I'm a bit long in the tooth for that kind of reaction but I am quite pleased about the acquisition and especially the price .