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Coyote Model 70 or Remington 700 VLS?

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19 December 2002, 15:22
Wyat
Coyote Model 70 or Remington 700 VLS?
Trying to choose between these two guns chambered in a 22-250. What are the pros and cons of each? Anyone have an opinion?
20 December 2002, 00:05
<BigBob>
Wyat,
Of the two you mention, I'd select the Remington. In fact, I did select it. I have one in the gun case right now. The reasons I went with Remington are: Trigger: The Remington trigger are fully adjustable for weight, travel and backlash. The Winchester is not. Accuracy: I have had better results with Remington than with Winchester. Lock time: The speed with which the rifle functions once the sear is disengaged. Remington has a faster lock time. The lock time can also be reduced further by about forty percent by using a Tubb high speed firingpin and spring. In the Rem. this is a simple thing to do, not so with Win. I also prefer the feel of the Rem. action over the Win., as well as the feel of the rifle in general. These are my reasons and just my opinion. Good luck with which ever one you select. [Smile]

[ 12-19-2002, 15:09: Message edited by: BigBob ]
20 December 2002, 03:50
JustC
Ditto the 700 rem. I have several stainless fluted models, and they all shoot close to custom groups with factory ammo.
20 December 2002, 07:43
<Okie Newton>
I would also go with the remington. Some may not like them but I have never seen a bad one.
20 December 2002, 10:36
Rich R
Purchasing a factory rifle that is put together right and will shoot accurately is luck of the draw. Everyone has an opinion, most are just hear say exaggerated. I wouldn't buy a new Remington just because of the new bolt key lock gizmo and some quality control issues. A friend of mine has a new Winchester Stealth that is shooting very well. Given the choice between Rem and Win, I would probably choose Win. Just for the heck of it, look at what Tikka has to offer, you might be impressed, I know I am.
20 December 2002, 10:54
<Gunnerdog>
If this is going to be a varmint rig, I would definitely choose the Remington. It will come with a better trigger (The Winchester has some inherent flaws in how it resets the sear. This results in an inconsistent release.). Also, the VLS will come with a full varmint weight barrel, a longer barrel, and a true varmint stock.

With the Coyote, you get a rifle that is good for both varmint and sporting, but not great for either. It has a compromise stock, a tapered and lighter barrel, and a shorter barrel to boot. If you plan to carry the rifle to shoot coyotes etc. and occasionally shoot varmints, it may be a good choice.

Since it has been said above that no factory rifle will be okay, then the best bet is to get the rifle that gives you the best platform from which to improve. And, in my opinion, that is far and away the Remington.

BTW -- How does the keylock on the Remington hamper its performance?
20 December 2002, 11:12
<Rem700fan>
I chose the Remington and could not be more impressed! 5 shot 100 yard groups you can cover with a nickel. Only thing I did was lighten the trigger.
20 December 2002, 15:11
LDHunter
My VLS is the most consistently accurate rifle I've ever owned and I've done nothing but some trigger work and relieved the barrel channel.

It also doesn't foul hardly at ALL!!!

$bob$
20 December 2002, 16:42
Mrgunslinger
If you want a real shooter then get yourself a SAVAGE!!!!!!!!!!
23 December 2002, 16:51
RiverRat
Gentlemen, I am a Remington man, but from what I have seen from them of late, and from the way the last two Winchester Coyotes have shot. There is no doubt I would buy either a Winchester Stealth or Coyote. I really feel they are the better rifles right now. I have two of the new keyed bolt Remingtons and they have issues!

Shoot Safe, Shoot Straight......RiverRat
23 December 2002, 20:08
markus
I bought a Coyote in 243 at the same time a good friend bought a remington VLS in 243. I am very unhappy with my coyote. It would not group at all out of the box so I have glass bedded it twice now. It avergaes about 1" at 100 meters with the good loads and the others are all over the map. My friends VLS is a tack driver. It has much nice fit and finish on it. I got my coyotes trigger down to a much lighter pull weight than the VLS vut that is my only advantage.

The coyote is a jack of all trades and a master of none.
I'd never buy another coyote for target shooting again. But for some reason I have this huge desire to get one in 300wsm for hunting kind of on the "cheap sendaro" idea.