Alberta Canuck?

11 July 2016, 21:09

Gatogordo

Well, ill health may have been a contributing factor, but the "Friends of Frank" who treated him like crap when he complained that dear old Frank was screwing him was the main factor. Based on some of his last communications to me, dear old Frank still owes him money from the sale of his goods.

We communicated by email not too long back, but it has been several months since I heard from him. Like you, I hope he is still above ground. A very smart and interesting man.

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12 July 2016, 03:04

dave wesbrook

Alberta Canuck's real name was Ken Howell and he died several months ago.

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12 July 2016, 07:46

JTEX

I am very sorry to hear that, he added a lot to our community.

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12 July 2016, 07:46

craigster

quote:
Originally posted by dave wesbrook:
Alberta Canuck's real name was Ken Howell and he died several months ago.

David L Wesbrook

Bullshit. Alberta Canuck was not Ken Howell.

12 July 2016, 08:02

dave wesbrook

Craigster,

You know nothing.
I sent you a PM.

12 July 2016, 08:38

Gatogordo

Well, I communicated with him. Sent him a bottle of whiskey which he wanted, and I am nearly certain he was not Ken Howell. So you're saying that Howell purchased and owned property under a false name in Arizona? Publish Howell's obit.

12 July 2016, 08:49

dave wesbrook

Believe whatever the fuck you idiots want to.

12 July 2016, 09:16

Gatogordo

Well, fuck you too, you sanctimonious son of a bitch. I sent a bottle of Blume Marillen to Lloyd in Cave Creek, Az. What was Howell's last address?

12 July 2016, 09:22

NormanConquest

My, my, Dave. simmer down. I would like the truth on this as well.I have done beau coup of business with both Frank + Albert over the years.I know about the sales problems that he had with Frank as well as both of their failing healths. We actually care. Could you provide any evidence that Albert has passed? It would be good to know.

12 July 2016, 09:30

craigster

quote:
Originally posted by dave wesbrook:
Craigster,

You know nothing.
I sent you a PM.

Thanks for the nice PM in which you mentioned asshole and pissant. Looking in the mirror again?

12 July 2016, 20:09

butchloc

come on guys - we can all agree that alberta canuck was a fine gentleman and a great resource here. fighting about a name defiles his memory

12 July 2016, 22:49

Gatogordo

I would suggest that saying he is someone else entirely WITHOUT presenting one shred of evidence defiles his memory. In addition, I am not certain that AC is deceased.

14 July 2016, 08:52

NormanConquest

Nor Frank for that matter,but there have been quite a few 375 Whitworth's come through here with no comment from him. Curious of coarse. I've had dealings with both,so if true RIP.

14 July 2016, 09:13

craigster

Frank is indeed among the living.

14 July 2016, 10:36

Sean Russell

quote:
Originally posted by butchloc:
come on guys - we can all agree that alberta canuck was a fine gentleman and a great resource here. fighting about a name defiles his memory

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14 July 2016, 18:27

Bill/Oregon

Dave, are you sure? Alberta Canuck bought an old Marlin from me and the check was signed Lloyd DeVore, of Cave Creek, Arizona. We often chatted about his many years here in Oregon, including his memories of the gunwriter Francis Sell. I started this thread because I wanted him to know I finally have built Sell's wildcat, the .25-35 Tomcat.

14 July 2016, 18:55

Gatogordo

No, he's not sure, because he's dead wrong.

I hope AC is alive, but don't know.

And.....as you said, AC lives(d)in Cave Creek, Az and Ken Howell lived in Quemado, NN.

17 July 2016, 01:33

BaxterB

And now for the real shocker... Saeed al Mahktoum is really...wait for it...George W. Bush!!! He's had us all going for so long. Crafty fellow that GWB.

17 July 2016, 08:24

TCLouis

I am sure he appreciates spreading all of his personal information on the net when that was NOT the topic de jour.

Guess now someone can attack me personally for no reason.
These ugly attacks seem to break out after hunting season is over and too early to scout for the next season

Take up fishing and get out of the house and some vitamin D.

17 July 2016, 18:43

Norton

Where's the personal attack and personal information?

Someone queried if an admired forum member was still living.

Are members here as easily offended as the general American public? This idea that everyone has the right to be gravely offended about any issue and then loudly voice their opinion has spun out of control in this country. Check yourself friend.

19 July 2016, 09:27

RCG

I guess Dave Westbrook is MIA after his bitch slapping showing he was wrong about AC.

I usually don't comment on these things but when a poster says basically "F you to the group I'm right and you are wrong", with no proof and is later proven wrong, he should be called out and come clean.

If I am wrong, please correct me Dave.

19 July 2016, 09:39

craigster

quote:
Originally posted by RCG:
I guess Dave Westbrook is MIA after his bitch slapping showing he was wrong about AC.

I usually don't comment on these things but when a poster says basically "F you to the group I'm right and you are wrong", with no proof and is later proven wrong, he should be called out and come clean.

If I am wrong, please correct me Dave.

Don't hold your breath.

26 July 2016, 04:39

Gatogordo

Alberta Canuck's family in Cave Creek, Az has been contacted. Lloyd (AC) passed on in March of this year. He was a very interesting and very smart man as well as being a fine shot. May he rest in peace.

26 July 2016, 05:46

RCG

Well that's good to know. After my post requesting Dave to provide proof, he PM'd me 3 times say he was right and I was basically a pot stirrer. He told me to call him for the facts and I responded it was a public forum, he made his accusations publicly and I didn't need to call him. He could post his reasons publicly. That didn't happen.

I was going to let it slide by until I saw Gato's post. Craigster is right, I'm not holding my breath but I will probably get some more nasty PM's. Oh well..

26 July 2016, 06:50

craigster

Despite what he thinks, class is not part of wesbrook's act.

26 July 2016, 08:33

Big Wonderful Wyoming

Lloyd was a gentlemen, there are not a lot of those on AR, so you tend to remember the nicer ones.

There are some crooks, quite a few assholes, some ok people, and some that I get a long with quite well more of the curmudgen veteran type, than a true gentlemen.

26 July 2016, 08:36

Big Wonderful Wyoming

quote:
Originally posted by Gatogordo:
Well, ill health may have been a contributing factor, but the "Friends of Frank" who treated him like crap when he complained that dear old Frank was screwing him was the main factor. Based on some of his last communications to me, dear old Frank still owes him money from the sale of his goods.

We communicated by email not too long back, but it has been several months since I heard from him. Like you, I hope he is still above ground. A very smart and interesting man.

Frank offered to buy things and was not timely in paying for them. Not sure if he was busy, or bit off more than he could chew.

I used to sell quite a bit more on here, and got the silent treatment after offers to buy from Frank. So I used to put "for sale to anyone but Frank".

28 July 2016, 08:30

NormanConquest

Thanks for the update Charlie. May he rest in peace indeed.

01 August 2016, 16:25

Rusty

Sad news all around! may he rest in peace.

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01 August 2016, 20:18

Bill/Oregon

I searched online for a death notice or obituary and came up empty handed. Lloyd valued his privacy -- apparently to the end. I like to think he is slipping through the dense forests of the Oregon Coast Range he loved so much, sneaking up on a blacktail buck with an old Winchester.

01 August 2016, 23:24

Gatogordo

I note that Wesbrook was on the forums for quite a while the other night. He could have wiped the shit off his face by simply saying he was mistaken and should not have said they were the same person without proof, which he obviously didn't have. But he didn't.

02 August 2016, 02:17

craigster

quote:
Originally posted by Gatogordo:
I note that Wesbrook was on the forums for quite a while the other night. He could have wiped the shit off his face by simply saying he was mistaken and should not have said they were the same person without proof, which he obviously didn't have. But he didn't.

The shit on the face probably doesn't bother him. His doesn't stink, just ask him.

10 August 2016, 17:03

Rusty

Just a little search of public records in Maricopa County reconfirms what Bill/Oregon and Gatogordo have stated. Lloyd Devore owned property/lived in Cave Creek, AZ.

(My post edited to indicate his first and last name, Lloyd Devore.)

10 August 2016, 22:08

dave wesbrook

Rusty,
There are 180,975 men in the U.S. with the first name Lloyd. How many live in Cave Creek?

10 August 2016, 22:54

Grenadier

Eleven adults with first name of Lloyd are currently living in Cave Creek and one is recently deceased, Lloyd George Devore.

A check of public records reveals Lloyd Devore's previous locations included Roseburg, OR and Scottsdale, AZ.

Alberta Canuck wrote of Roseburg in 62 posts on AR. He wrote of going to Roseburg gun shows, of Roseburg shooting matches, of Roseburg gunsmiths, and of going to the Roseburg Rod and Gun Club. All, several times.

In 31 posts he wrote of going to similar places and events in Scottsdale, AZ. In some posts he even wrote of having lived in Scottsdale.

11 August 2016, 00:32

Gatogordo

quote:
Originally posted by Grenadier:
Eleven adults with first name of Lloyd are currently living in Cave Creek and one is recently deceased, Lloyd George Devore.

A check of public records reveals Lloyd Devore's previous locations included Roseburg, OR and Scottsdale, AZ.

Alberta Canuck wrote of Roseburg in 62 posts on AR. He wrote of going to Roseburg gun shows, of Roseburg shooting matches, of Roseburg gunsmiths, and of going to the Roseburg Rod and Gun Club. All, several times.

In 31 posts he wrote of going to similar places and events in Scottsdale, AZ. In some posts he even wrote of having lived in Scottsdale.

All pure coincidence, just ask our expert on everything.

12 August 2016, 11:18

RCG

On the other thread on Big Bore rifles re AC, Dave Westbrook finally admitted he was wrong. Took a long time for him to come to that conclusion.

I was the recipient of a number of pm"s from Dave saying he was right and I was wrong. Turns out that wasn't the case.