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Comparing American and Australian saddles
29 May 2018, 10:33
NaphtaliComparing American and Australian saddles
Having viewed photographs of American and Australian cowmen beginning with wranglers of the late nineteenth century, I notice that despite their doing nearly identical jobs, in identical terrain, and [partially] identical climates, saddles appear to be different. I know little about American "Western" saddles and essentially nothing of wranglers' saddles of rural Australia. I'm confident that some American and Australian saddle makers of the era were familiar with differences. Yet there appears to have been little synthesizing to a common style.
As best you can, please identify differences and why differences persisted.
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30 May 2018, 18:53
butchloci have noticed that aussie saddle are down under
30 May 2018, 18:55
Grizzly AdamsThink the differences come from Aussies building on their British heritage , while the Americans just continued on the Spanish route. More than one way to skin a cow.
The American way is a lot more physical, reflected in a much sturdier saddle.
Grizz
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31 May 2018, 10:05
NormanConquestI'm not familiar with the Ausy saddles but do they fall along the same lines as an English? That would be worthless in the cow business. One needs a horn for dallying (preferably wrapped thick w/ rawhide) + a high cantle. I have a Calvin Allen roping saddle.Since I am left handed I worked heeler on team roping.To old for that now.
Never mistake motion for action.
31 May 2018, 17:38
Grizzly Adamsquote:
Originally posted by NormanConquest:
I'm not familiar with the Ausy saddles but do they fall along the same lines as an English? That would be worthless in the cow business. One needs a horn for dallying (preferably wrapped thick w/ rawhide) + a high cantle. I have a Calvin Allen roping saddle.Since I am left handed I worked heeler on team roping.To old for that now.
Australians don't rope or dally.
Grizz
Indeed, no human being has yet lived under conditions which, considering the prevailing climates of the past, can be regarded as normal. John E Pfeiffer, The Emergence of Man
Those who can't skin, can hold a leg. Abraham Lincoln
Only one war at a time. Abe Again.
04 June 2018, 08:48
NormanConquestSo how do they work cattle?
Never mistake motion for action.
04 June 2018, 12:12
yumastepside....very well, thank you
...we use dogs, stock whips and very well trained horses, although on the bigger cattle stations its mostly quadbikes and helicopters,......with a couple of MILLION square acres theres not much time for horses nowdays.
Roger
04 June 2018, 13:30
Naphtaliquote:
Originally posted by yumastepside:
....very well, thank you
...we use dogs, stock whips and very well trained horses, although on the bigger cattle stations its mostly quadbikes and helicopters,......with a couple of MILLION square acres theres not much time for horses nowdays.
Roger
Roger, I sense the beginnings of an
AHA! moment.
It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it. Sam Levinson
06 June 2018, 08:59
NormanConquestDoes still look a lot like an English hunting saddle
Never mistake motion for action.
07 June 2018, 01:16
Naphtaliquote:
Originally posted by Naphtali:
quote:
Originally posted by yumastepside:
....very well, thank you
...we use dogs, stock whips and very well trained horses, although on the bigger cattle stations its mostly quadbikes and helicopters,......with a couple of MILLION square acres theres not much time for horses nowdays.
Roger
Roger, I sense the beginnings of an
AHA! moment.
Roger, I have had my
AHA! moment. Stashed in my archived motion picture drive is "The Overlanders" from the 1940, just after the war, I believe. Chips Rafferty stars in the dramatized recounting of Australia's driving more than one million head of cattle from Northern Territory, and possibly West Australia, east to Queensland when a Japanese invasion seemed to be a reasonable probability, [i]circa]/i] 1942.
From viewing the process, I now how manipulating cattle differs from American drovers' method, plus I understand why saddles differ.
It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it. Sam Levinson
07 June 2018, 01:17
Naphtaliquote:
Originally posted by Naphtali:
quote:
Originally posted by Naphtali:
quote:
Originally posted by yumastepside:
....very well, thank you
...we use dogs, stock whips and very well trained horses, although on the bigger cattle stations its mostly quadbikes and helicopters,......with a couple of MILLION square acres theres not much time for horses nowdays.
Roger
Roger, I sense the beginnings of an
AHA! moment.
Roger, I have had my
AHA! moment. Stashed in my archived motion picture only back-up drive is "The Overlanders" from the 1940, just after the war, I believe. Chips Rafferty stars in the dramatized recounting of Australia's driving more than one million head of cattle from Northern Territory, and possibly West Australia, east to Queensland when a Japanese invasion seemed to be a reasonable probability, [i]circa]/i] 1942.
From viewing the process, I now how manipulating cattle differs from American drovers' method, plus I understand why saddles differ.
It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it. Sam Levinson
07 June 2018, 01:18
Naphtaliquote:
Originally posted by Naphtali:
quote:
Originally posted by Naphtali:
quote:
Originally posted by Naphtali:
quote:
Originally posted by yumastepside:
....very well, thank you
...we use dogs, stock whips and very well trained horses, although on the bigger cattle stations its mostly quadbikes and helicopters,......with a couple of MILLION square acres theres not much time for horses nowdays.
Roger
Roger, I sense the beginnings of an
AHA! moment.
Roger, I have had my
AHA! moment. Stashed in my archived motion picture only back-up drive is "The Overlanders" from the 1940s, just after the war, I believe. Chips Rafferty stars in the dramatized recounting of Australia's driving more than one million head of cattle from Northern Territory, and possibly West Australia, east to Queensland when a Japanese invasion seemed to be a reasonable probability, [i]circa]/i] 1942.
From viewing the process, I now how manipulating cattle differs from American drovers' method, plus I understand why saddles differ.
It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it. Sam Levinson