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Puma White Hunter???
05 March 2006, 06:11
Charles_HelmPuma White Hunter???
What is the story on these knives? They seem to be pretty popular but I do not know which is the more desirable configuration as there seem to be a lot of variations. What is the real scoop?
05 March 2006, 07:36
Boss Kongoni
There have been several grip options over the years but the blade remains the same.
I've owned one for 25 years. I find it to have one of the finest blade steels I've own (along with my camillus s30v folder). I've killed three hogs with it. While admittedly, it is not the best design for that task. I have the back blade as sharp as the main blade giving me two cutting edges. It usually stays in camp as it's isn't really practical to carry. I've also split kinding and open a can of beans on a cold & wet elk bivy hunt. Most times I carry a puma silver lion in the field but, my trusted White Hunter is in camp or in the truck, there "just in case".
It's one of the classics that gives you a feel for the hunt, from a less complecated time, not unlike fine double rifle.
As I understand. the blade was designed as working/survival knife for PH in Africa, hence the name.
If I had to choose on one knife to have for the rest of my hunting days, this would be the one.
If you can't smell his breath, your're not close enough!
05 March 2006, 20:17
KWardI have been interested in this knife for some time, have a Puma hunters companion and it is a great knife for processing deer. Hoping jefferydenmark will way in always has great pictures and great knowledge about knives or perhaps jaun pozzi who also has great input.
05 March 2006, 20:51
Charles_HelmYes, hopefully Andre will chime in as there seem to be a lot of different variations in steel, designation, handle material, and so forth over time.
Boss Kongoni -- is your marked "Pumasteel" or is it some other material?
05 March 2006, 22:08
JefferyDenmarkPuma White hunter

Mixed feelings

A great blade design
Old school steel
Small handle
I had a Puma white hunter and thought that the handle was to small for my hands, I have normal size hands, I then had a friend make me a new handle and it was not to my liking.
There is a new Puma white hunter out on the marked, I think that is made in Spain, that has a stacked leather handle like a SOG bowie. That model looks like it has a grip that would work better then the original one.
This is the picture of my modified White hunter.
The White hunter is a evergreen and has lots of history to back it up as a African hunters knife. I think some of the selous scouts used white hunters. Alf would know this.
Link to the White hunter with stacked leather handle:
These knives does not look to be the same quality then the German made Pumas.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6610...0&fromMakeTrack=trueCheers,
André
Always always use enough... GUN & KNIFE
05 March 2006, 22:21
Charles_HelmThanks -- I was looking at the old "Pumasteel" ones -- is that the ticket? Maybe I should just buy a few knives a month. I have two coming from eBay now (a couple of Kershaws -- it's a personal thing) and am watching some Cold Steel auctions closely...
Edited -- is that a whetstone in the pictures?
05 March 2006, 22:43
Boss Kongoniquote:
Originally posted by Charles_Helm:
Boss Kongoni -- is your marked "Pumasteel" or is it some other material?
Charles - Mine has a bit of "history" behind it. It has 6377 over Puma White Hunter over "- ----steel W. Germany. I had it polished by a knifesmith a few years ago and some of the logo stamping is gone. Mine has the stag grip scales one is wider than the other. I have larger hands (I can easily grip my 1911)and mine holds very well.
Of course I'm biased as I've had mine for so long.

If looking for an older one on ebay, look for the stag scales and brass pins. They show up from time to time.
If you can't smell his breath, your're not close enough!
05 March 2006, 22:56
Charles_HelmThanks Boss Kongoni!
05 March 2006, 23:10
JefferyDenmarkCharles
Yes it is a stone
Cheers,
André
Always always use enough... GUN & KNIFE
05 March 2006, 23:44
Charles_Helmquote:
Originally posted by JefferyDenmark:
Charles
Yes it is a stone
Cheers,
André
It is a very nice looking set up!
Just for fun I looked at the Randalls on eBay -- just window shopping for sure.

06 March 2006, 11:24
JefferyDenmarkYes
The Randalls are very expensive knives. Collectors push up the prices. Damand is bigger then the supply. waiting list at Randall is 54 months.

Cheers,
André
Always always use enough... GUN & KNIFE
06 March 2006, 18:27
Charles_HelmWell if I paid for it over 54 months maybe I could afford it.
The Cold Steel kukri I am watching on eBay (I bid earlier) is already over $150 with several hours to go!

I saw that you have some Lile knives. I was in a sporting goods store the other day and saw that they are selling knives made in China with his name on them. I told the salesperson that seemed odd to me but he did not get it. He said he was the gun guy not the knife guy.

I may actually get one for my daughter as it was a decent blade shape with sheath and olive wood handle for ~$30 and she needs to learn skinning and cleaning -- but it was not what you think of for a Lile.
06 March 2006, 20:36
JefferyDenmarkCharles
The knife you are looking at are not made by James B. Lile

aka Jimmy Lile.
Mr. Lile passed away in 1991, RIP, and his knives have become very collectable. I have some i my private stash

Want pictures?
PS Regarding a knife to your girl, get a knife withna guard that is more safe. half guard is cool like on the Cold steel master hunter, it is a $40-50 knife. Sheath is not great but the knife is American made if you get the carbon V one. I have one of those to

Cheers,
André
Always always use enough... GUN & KNIFE
06 March 2006, 21:09
Charles_Helmquote:
Originally posted by JefferyDenmark:
Charles
The knife you are looking at are not made by James B. Lile

aka Jimmy Lile.
Mr. Lile passed away in 1991, RIP, and his knives have become very collectable. I have some i my private stash
I knew they were mass produced -- I was just surprised that they used his name on them! Kind of like getting a $30 "Randall" at Wal-Mart.
quote:
Originally posted by JefferyDenmark:
Want pictures?
Of course! I think I saw some of them in old posts, but I would like to see them again if it is convenient.
quote:
Originally posted by JefferyDenmark:
PS Regarding a knife to your girl, get a knife withna guard that is more safe. half guard is cool like on the Cold steel master hunter, it is a $40-50 knife. Sheath is not great but the knife is American made if you get the carbon V one. I have one of those to

?
I think the Master Hunter may be too big for her as she has small hands, but I'll keep my eyes open.
Thanks again for the info -- now I need to find a stone like the one in your pictures -- if I can just get my study cleaned out and have a place for everything.

07 March 2006, 00:21
Charles_HelmUpdate: I ended up winning the Kukri for slightly more than I had hoped, so it should be on its way to me soon.
07 March 2006, 00:32
JefferyDenmarkNot bad baja
You will be pleased wity that monster.
Cheers,
André
Always always use enough... GUN & KNIFE
07 March 2006, 01:13
Charles_HelmNow I just need an eBay break for a while!
07 March 2006, 01:26
JefferyDenmarkJa about 2 days and 4 hours when the Trailmaster comes up for closing bids

Cheers,
André
Always always use enough... GUN & KNIFE
07 March 2006, 01:45
Charles_Helmquote:
Originally posted by JefferyDenmark:
Ja about 2 days and 4 hours when the Trailmaster comes up for closing bids

Cheers,
André

But it's the last one I need...

09 March 2006, 07:20
Charles_Helmquote:
Originally posted by JefferyDenmark:
Ja about 2 days and 4 hours when the Trailmaster comes up for closing bids

Cheers,
André
No bueno. Someone else wanted it pretty bad, and it is hard to up your bid on a cell phone while at a children's soccer game.

09 March 2006, 18:00
JefferyDenmarkThere will be more

Cheers,
André
Always always use enough... GUN & KNIFE
09 March 2006, 18:58
Charles_Helmquote:
Originally posted by JefferyDenmark:
There will be more

Cheers,
André
Yes, there is another one now from an Australian seller. I got a shipping quote from him last night.

But the last one was in new condition. No problem.

09 March 2006, 23:34
JefferyDenmarkYou should go for e unused one. There are plenty around. I can get you one

for less then what the last one sold for.
Cheers,
André
Always always use enough... GUN & KNIFE
09 March 2006, 23:38
Charles_Helmquote:
Originally posted by JefferyDenmark:
You should go for e unused one. There are plenty around. I can get you one

for less then what the last one sold for.
Cheers,
André
I'll keep looking unless you can point me in the right direction!

Unless the used one goes cheap but he is starting at US$100.
You never did tell me about that sharpening stone you have -- I need to find some place to get one of those -- just because it looks cool!
10 March 2006, 01:39
JefferyDenmarkI don't know what sort of stone or brand it is

The stone is about grit 600-700.
I bought it in a danish knife store and it was the last one.
I also use a spiderco medium stone to re-finish the edge on knives used for heavy field tasks.
Get one of the Arkensas stones from this seller:
http://stores.ebay.com/J-P-Arkansas-StonesYou will need a large 8 or 10 inch stone to get a perfect edge on the large knives like the Trailmaster and the Kukri.
Cheers,
André
Always always use enough... GUN & KNIFE
10 March 2006, 04:03
Charles_Helmquote:
Originally posted by JefferyDenmark:
I don't know what sort of stone or brand it is

The stone is about grit 600-700.
I bought it in a danish knife store and it was the last one.
I also use a spiderco medium stone to re-finish the edge on knives used for heavy field tasks.
Get one of the Arkensas stones from this seller:
http://stores.ebay.com/J-P-Arkansas-StonesYou will need a large 8 or 10 inch stone to get a perfect edge on the large knives like the Trailmaster and the Kukri.
Cheers,
André
Too bad -- that is a pretty neat stone. It makes all of the others look bland. I have couple of large stones now, all the real use I got out of a Razor's Edge sharpening kit. I also use ceramics like the Spiderco Tri-Angle Sharpener or plain crock sticks. In the field I have an old DMT diamond rod -- not the pointed one they sell now -- that will touch up a blade pretty fast.
I have seen LARGE ceramic rods suggested for curved blades like the Kukri, but if you can sharpen them on a stone I can give it a try. I am going to try to clear out my study and put in a dedicated work table for things like sharpening knives -- then I see several more stones in my future.
And seriously, if you know where I can get a new old-style Trailmaster feel free to post, PM, or email the info -- or I can just Paypal you the funds.
That's one of those "damascus" stones !! My favorite sharpener is a Eze-Lap diamond sharpener ,it works on everything !
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10 March 2006, 18:31
Charles_Helmquote:
Did you already buy yours???
quote:
Originally posted by Charles_Helm:
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Did you already buy yours???
No, I'm waiting for the price to go up. For Christmas my wife gave me a White Hunter II but it's just not the same quality nor in fact the same knife. On a web search a couple of months ago I saw a great version of the White Hunter with wooden grips being sold in the UK but now I can't find it. If I ever find the right one I may have to part with the money. For now I keep finding convenient excuses.
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10 March 2006, 20:10
Charles_HelmI have put it on my wish list, but the old "Pumaster Steel" version only. For some reason I can convince myself to pay more for a custom knife than a collectible older one. I will try to get one before the end of the year, unless my short attention span causes me to spend all my money on something else!
OK, I found that White Hunter being sold in the UK on the link below. Not a wooden handle but stacked leather. It's a little different; what do you think of it?
http://www.bkcg.co.uk/products/manu/puma/pu806.html
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10 March 2006, 21:16
Charles_HelmIs that the new "Made in Spain" model? Like
this one on eBay?
Personally I will try to get one of the original type, although the one you linked looks nice. I suppose it is more of a nostalgia thing than a practical reason.
I think I would like a traditional one as well, stag handle, hand made in Germany, the right steel. I certainly won't buy it in the UK. Those poor people have the highest prices in the world for anything related to hunting or the outdoors. I have asked the Brits at the site to confirm the country of origin.
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11 March 2006, 18:23
Charles_HelmOne of the original ones (stag handles, Pumaster steel) just went for $177.50 on eBay. I am chasing some other items right now but will likely try later this year.
No doubt there are risks buying on eBay but sometimes you can get a better deal that with a dealer. Of course, some people pay over retail on eBay -- go figure.
Good luck.
What is the difference between a model 6377 and a model 6375?
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11 March 2006, 22:31
Charles_Helmquote:
Originally posted by Wink:
What is the difference between a model 6377 and a model 6375?
From the list at
Puma Only it looks like the 6375 is stainless and the 6377 "Pumaster." Caveat -- I am no expert on these knives.
12 March 2006, 22:31
Boss KongoniI just looked at E-Bay there is an old WH(used & abused) that would make a good working knife if cleaned up & sharpened.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Puma-White-Hunter-Mod-6377Ser-86581...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemThere is also a "collector" "new" condition made in 1973.
http://cgi.ebay.com/PUMA-Knife-WHITE-HUNTER-6377-Stag-H...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemGood Luck.
BTW - There is a lot of steel on the old Pumas, I'm sure you could clean up the used one.
If you can't smell his breath, your're not close enough!
I was hoping no one else would notice! Darn.
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12 March 2006, 23:50
Charles_Helmquote:
Originally posted by Wink:
I was hoping no one else would notice! Darn.
Yes, I saw that one yesterday. Makes you think back to the boneheaded things you did as a teenager.
