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14 June 2003, 06:44
120mm
Original military loads
I just read an article in some gun mag that briefly mentioned original military loads in various military calibers. Is there a place one can look (or someone can just tell me) where to find the original 7x57, 8x57, 6.5x55 and 7.62x54R load data?

I'd like to restore a few cheap guns out there and fire them with original spec ammo, just for kicks and grins.

Thanks a bunch
16 June 2003, 17:19
N E 450 No2
120mm
Try looking in a "Cartridges of the World".
They have info on most all the old cartridges. I would however check their loading data with current loading manuals in case of a misprint.
Also check a "SHOTGUN NEWS" or a "GUNLIST". You can buy original ammo for many surplus rifles.
01 July 2003, 02:41
MADISON
I tried last night to get back in on the C. E [ED] HARRIS Handloading Library on Line but, it must have been shut down for the weekend.
01 July 2003, 17:33
MADISON
DURING THE DAY type into your brouser:
C. Ed Harris Handloading Library Online
This is not a web sight so you need to go in through the "back door". There is a long list of interesting topics.
02 July 2003, 17:45
bill smith
"Mauser Bolt Rifles" by Ludwig Olson has the specs for every cartridge ever fired through a Mauser bolt rifle. it does not tell what kind of powder but it gives the various bullet weights and muzzle velocities for every round.
23 July 2003, 07:12
<eldeguello>
The four rounds you listed ALL started out with round-nose bullets, as did the .30/40 Krag and U.S. .30/'03, predecessor to the '06 (220-gr. RN)!

The 7X57mm shot a 173-175 grain RN @ 2200-2300 FPS; the 8X57 used a 236-gr RN @ 2200 FPS, the 6.5 X55 used a 160 to 165-grain RN at 2300 FPS (all vels approx, varied by country). I forget the original bullet weight of the M1891 Moisin-Nagant load. [Wink]
27 July 2003, 02:36
<BEJ>
I believe the 7.62x54R used a 150gr. bullet at 2880fps (Russian loading). The finnish used a 166gr. bullet at 2540fps and a 200gr. at 2250fps. The M39 sights were set for the 200gr. loading at 150/300m. At 100yds, the Barnaul 203gr. FMJ/SP shoots about 4" high in my M39.