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04 April 2007, 08:48
SuperSpeedLet's try again
In my thread the question that was asked:
If were having a very high end custom gun on Mauser or M70, quarter rib, the works, would you pick the 375 Ruger or 375 H&H.For the sake of the discussion we will assume the 375 Ruger lasts and works etc an etcLet's not worry about who will make the rifle or will not make the rifle in 375 Ruger or whether Purdey is a piece of over priced shit etc.
For your dream rifle
in wood would select the 375 H&H or 375 Ruger.
As a fan of Anna Nicole Smith type rifles I can just sit on the sidelines and watch

Mike
04 April 2007, 08:53
shootawayIf you have worked hard for your money and wanted to invest in a rifle, why would you choose a new round that might give you a bit more velocity over a round that has established a market all over the world and that will let you be part of its history.
04 April 2007, 08:56
500grainsH&H.
Wildcats and oddball chamberings are much less appealing in a high dollar gun than a classic chambering.
04 April 2007, 09:03
PathfinderIf I were limited to only those two choices I would go with the 375 H&H.
04 April 2007, 09:08
N E 450 No2I too would go with the H&H.
Main reason is that ammo is far more widely avialable.
The 375 Ruger does not offer a meaningful gain in killing power over the H&H, compared to the avialibility of the H&H IMHO.
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04 April 2007, 09:31
Idaho Sharpshooterthe old H&H is widely noted as not THE perfect rifle for anything, but as THE perfect rifle for everything. Nothing against the 375 Ruger, but the old Holland is just time tested and big game proven. It's Maureen O'Hara vs Madonna...
Rich
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04 April 2007, 09:32
DavidReedH&H
Desirability of the H&H is now and probably remain greater than that of Ruger once the "new" wears off. The availability of ammo could be a factor x years from now or in a far away place. And I have an inkling that the Ruger cartridge won't feed from the magazine with the greased Coke bottle feel that the H&H does... Not to say that it couldn't be made to come close.
04 April 2007, 18:28
BitterrootThe pinky finger could be held high with the H&H, but not with the Ruger.
04 April 2007, 19:20
sdgunslingerThe H&H is more like the June Cleaver of the 375 world........I'd rate the Ruger cartridge more like Maureen O'Hara , mid sized and feisty.
For the real Madona whore type 375 s you need to go to the Weatherby cartridges , I'm sure Mike will aree with that notion(grin)
04 April 2007, 19:25
Fjoldquote:
Originally posted by sdgunslinger:
The H&H is more like the June Cleaver of the 375 world........I'd rate the Ruger cartridge more like Maureen O'Hara , mid sized and feisty.
For the real Madona whore type 375 s you need to go to the Weatherby cartridges , I'm sure Mike will aree with that notion(grin)
My favorite line of June Cleaver's was:
"You were a little hard on the Beaver last night Ward"
Frank
"I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money."
- Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953
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04 April 2007, 20:46
SDhunterBeauty is in the eye of the holder.
Those are butt ugly!
Give me the choice of a 375R in one of those ugly rifles vs an H&H in a nice clean functional rifle. The choice is simple.
04 April 2007, 20:49
SDhunterTo answer the original question again.
I would pick the Ruger, full knowing that I may lose more money if I sell it. But if everything goes as planned, by the time I sell the Ruger. It will be a classic also.
The rifle in the standard action would be a better all around hunting rifle vs the magnum action.
04 April 2007, 20:49
458WinLast winter I commissioned a very high end rifle and talked to the builder about making it a 375 Ruger - as I already have three in the H&H flavor. Since Ruger had not "officially" intoduced the round he seriously balked - although said he would do one.
I chose another round - probably wise at the time for an unknown round. Although I currently have two different rifles in the Ruger 375 to use this year during bear season and personally think it the new 375 Ruger/Hornady round has all the potential push the 375H&H aside like the 300 Win did to the 300H&H.
Today, if I were worried about re-sale value in the future, I might still order the H&H but if it were a rifle I planned on using I would seriously consider the Ruger version. The 375 Ruger will do more than the 9.3x64 ( which a few die hard loonies still build into fancy rifles) and ammo and brass certainly should be more readily avaliable -in the US at least.
Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship
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BearHunter 62375 R Already have the H&H.
05 April 2007, 17:31
Blair338/378quote:
Originally posted by 500grains:
H&H.
Wildcats and oddball chamberings are much less appealing in a high dollar gun than a classic chambering.
Concur.
Verbera!, Iugula!, Iugula!!!
Blair.
06 April 2007, 00:58
BuliwyfHands down the .375 H&H.
06 April 2007, 02:20
Michael RobinsonIs this a trick question?
Mike
Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer.
07 April 2007, 09:27
ozhunterH&H as I like classic, tried, proven, uniformity and availability.
Very little need for these modernized copies.
Adam.
07 April 2007, 09:34
Remington720H&H
Reasons: readily available ammunition and brass, smooth feeding, inherent accuracy.
07 April 2007, 09:54
WoodjackI wouldnt really care except:
IF I wanted a magnum length receiver style rifle then, .375H&H.
IF I prefered a stdM98 length receiver then .375ruger.
thats just based on your two given choices of cartridge. otherwise I would not hesitate to consider 9.3x70 on the magnum length and 9.3x64B on stdm98.
Brass availability aint a big issue. If you can afford a custom 10,20,50,100k? rifle, you can afford to buy a lifelong++ stockpile of brass for whatever chosen chambering. IF you cannot afford the brass you cannot afford the gun.
If your worried about money loss&depreciation dont get custom guns, new cars,boats, aircraft or girl friends,
instead buy real estate.
07 April 2007, 19:06
Rodney H.{500Jeffery}H&H in a custom build for me, but if I found a good deal on the ruger chambering in a DGR style then I might look into the adoption process. R.
07 April 2007, 19:53
Idaho SharpshooterWoodjack! (as my ten year old nephew says) You are the man!!!
This post boils it all down to the basic reason for one or the other; action length.
If I buy the 375 rooger (couldn't resist) then I lay in a lifetime supply of brass, like 1000 cases.
Rich
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