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Light weight 500NE
15 April 2006, 22:44
retreeverLight weight 500NE
How or what would you do to increase the weight of a 9.5 pound 500NE...To take it to at least 10.5 or close to 11 lbs.
Mike
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16 April 2006, 00:42
bwanajcjlead shot or mercury recoil reducer tube(s) in stock the only problem is you sre going to chage the balance of your gun unless you split the weight up between the stock and the forearm.
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16 April 2006, 09:48
500grainsI would hunt with it at 9.5 pounds because that difference in weight would probably mean that I could walk another 3 miles during the day, increasing the chance that I will get my animal.
16 April 2006, 11:11
mehulkamdarMike,
Did you get hold of one of the Winkler 500 NE double backlocks or is this something different? I heard that (was it Josef or Benedikt Winkler?) made a few as light as 8 lbs and one of them came up for auction at either Holt's or Sothebys in London a couple of years ago.
I would request you to post pics of the rifle over here if possible.
Thanks and good hunting!
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17 April 2006, 02:56
RustyReplace the forearm with the same length piece of railroad rail!
Rusty
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17 April 2006, 05:13
Idaho Sharpshootermy Krieghoff 500NE 3" weighs exactly ten pounds loaded. It shoots well for me (and I am NOT masochistic)off of the bench for 4-6 rounds..well enough to cut several cloverleafs at 50yds and stay in the 2 -2.5" range at 100yds. Well stocked, a double 500 is more of a shotgun shove than the whip you will often find with a boltrifle the same level of recoil.
What is yours?
Rich
17 April 2006, 07:19
bwanajcjI like rusty's idea but if that doesn't work maybe you can add weight to yourself instead, like this fellow ingenious shooter.jj
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17 April 2006, 15:53
<JOHAN>quote:
Originally posted by retreever:
How or what would you do to increase the weight of a 9.5 pound 500NE...To take it to at least 10.5 or close to 11 lbs.
Mike
I would leave it at 9,5 pounds, no changes at all. Do as 500 grains suggested, take it hunting
Cheers
/JOHAN
17 April 2006, 19:31
studdogI suggest developing a slighly reduced loading. The experts on this site can surely come up with a loading that will not materially effect performance.
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I installed mercury recoil reducers on my .416, splitting the weight between fore and aft. Balance is as it was and there is hardly any muzzlejump now.
17 April 2006, 21:29
larryshoresActually it is my gun he is talking about. It ia a Heym model 88B. It has a super recoil pad and a mercury tube. Not certain what size they put in it.
The gun really whacks you. Far more than my .458 Win Mag bolt gun that has NO muzzle brake, NO porting and NO mercury tubes. It has a recoil pad and that is it.
I would like any help in ways to reduce the recoil.
Thank you.
17 April 2006, 21:40
577NitroExpressRetreever et al.:
When I got my .500 NE Merkel (the same one Retreever, Doc52, BigFiveJack, Widowmaker416, et al. shot recently), it weighed in around 10.25 lbs give or take.
It went to JJ at Champlin's for a recoil pad and mercury reducer. The LOP was PERFECT for me, so I had JJ cut the stock to accomodate the recoil pad. I ASSUME he removed the weight in the butt, but am not 100% sure.
If this is the case, I would not be shocked if that .500 NE was weighing in UNDER 10 lbs these days.
My old man has the gun right now and if it is possible, I'll have him weigh it and see what it registers.
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18 April 2006, 07:02
500grainsquote:
Originally posted by larryshores:
Actually it is my gun he is talking about. It ia a Heym model 88B. It has a super recoil pad and a mercury tube. Not certain what size they put in it.
The gun really whacks you. Far more than my .458 Win Mag bolt gun that has NO muzzle brake, NO porting and NO mercury tubes. It has a recoil pad and that is it.
I would like any help in ways to reduce the recoil.
Thank you.
You could sell it to me and get a .470 instead.