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600 Nitro Double Misfire
09 October 2011, 20:20
600 Overkill600 Nitro Double Misfire
Anybody else see poor Tony Makris on Under Wild Skies take a double-barrel 600 nitro mis-fire on an ele?? Don't think he's anxiuos to get behind another 600 anytime soon

09 October 2011, 20:35
RobgunbuilderMis-fire or double?-Rob
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09 October 2011, 21:05
CCMDocI haven't seen it since I can't get any outdoor channels in the People's Republic of new Jersey but from what others have written in AR - he doubled it.
Wish someone would video that segment and post to YouTube ...
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09 October 2011, 21:40
600 OverkillYup it doubled. He explains later how it happened. When sighting it in, the second barrel was slightly more on target so when it came time to shoot at the elephant, he chose the second barrel first. He explained it was really his own fault as the gun was designed with a lighter sear on the first barrel & heavier on the second so it wouldn't double. When he fired the second barrel first, the first barrel's sear released causing the double. It was quite a video. Took him right off his feet knocking him several feet back and the gun hit him in the head. Did put both shots into the elephants head at close range & he took it pretty good. Sure stunned him & the guide though.
09 October 2011, 22:12
Hizziequote:
Originally posted by 600 Overkill:
Yup it doubled. He explains later how it happened. When sighting it in, the second barrel was slightly more on target so when it came time to shoot at the elephant, he chose the second barrel first. He explained it was really his own fault as the gun was designed with a lighter sear on the first barrel & heavier on the second so it wouldn't double. When he fired the second barrel first, the first barrel's sear released causing the double. It was quite a video. Took him right off his feet knocking him several feet back and the gun hit him in the head. Did put both shots into the elephants head at close range & he took it pretty good. Sure stunned him & the guide though.
I thought 1 of the great strengths of the DR was being able to load a soft and a solid and instantly choose the appropriate barrel as needed.
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09 October 2011, 22:45
MJinesAnother long thread on the same issue:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...1411043/m/1991013261
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09 October 2011, 23:20
N E 450 No2quote:
Originally posted by Hizzie:
quote:
Originally posted by 600 Overkill:
Yup it doubled. He explains later how it happened. When sighting it in, the second barrel was slightly more on target so when it came time to shoot at the elephant, he chose the second barrel first. He explained it was really his own fault as the gun was designed with a lighter sear on the first barrel & heavier on the second so it wouldn't double. When he fired the second barrel first, the first barrel's sear released causing the double. It was quite a video. Took him right off his feet knocking him several feet back and the gun hit him in the head. Did put both shots into the elephants head at close range & he took it pretty good. Sure stunned him & the guide though.
I thought 1 of the great strengths of the DR was being able to load a soft and a solid and instantly choose the appropriate barrel as needed.
You are correct, it is a good feature to have.
And you can, if your triggers are not too light. Some doubles have too light a poundage on their triggers.
Also some might say that you only need solids for a 600... Still... You do not need light triggers on a double, especially a 577 or a 600.IMHO of course.
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10 October 2011, 00:36
CCMDocquote:
Originally posted by N E 450 No2:
quote:
Originally posted by Hizzie:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by 600 Overkill:
Yup it doubled. He explains later how it happened. When sighting it in, the second barrel was slightly more on target so when it came time to shoot at the elephant, he chose the second barrel first. He explained it was really his own fault as the gun was designed with a lighter sear on the first barrel & heavier on the second so it wouldn't double. When he fired the second barrel first, the first barrel's sear released causing the double. It was quite a video. Took him right off his feet knocking him several feet back and the gun hit him in the head. Did put both shots into the elephants head at close range & he took it pretty good. Sure stunned him & the guide though.
I thought 1 of the great strengths of the DR was being able to load a soft and a solid and instantly choose the appropriate barrel as needed.[/QUOTE
You are correct, it is a good feature to have.
And you can, if your triggers are not too light. Some doubles have too light a poundage on their triggers.
Also some might say that you only need solids for a 600... Still... You do not need light triggers on a double, especially a 577 or a 600.IMHO of course.
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Agree about .620 diameter bullets and the hole they make - soft kinda redundant but fun nonetheless. No need for a too-light trigger, particularly the left barrel/rear trigger
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11 October 2011, 00:38
TwoZeroquote:
Originally posted by N E 450 No2:
You are correct, it is a good feature to have.
And you can, if your triggers are not too light. Some doubles have too light a poundage on their triggers.
...
To be honest, I view it as a design defect if recoil could cause a trigger to fire.
If the trigger is set to very few ounces it could be understandable, but anything 2 lbs. and up it seems to me that the trigger design needs to be revisited.
12 October 2011, 23:13
Max TraumaI hope it comes on again soon because I would like to see it.
13 October 2011, 19:31
McKaySometimes I think there is quite a bit of B.S. on Tony show Under Wild Skies. On a recent show he was hunting elephant with a short scoped Blaser in a 375. He missed the brain shot on the elephant at what looked to be about 20-50 yards. His explanation was that he forgot to hold a little low on the brain shot because the scope was 1.5" over his iron sites. I am not saying that it is easy to hit the brain on an elephant, but saying you missed because of the difference in site plane at that close of distance I found humorous.
Mac
14 October 2011, 05:45
bronzepigI had this happen on a 375 ferlach bouilt in the sixtyies; should never happen even with a set trigger. took the gun appart and pulled the hammer; sure enough there was a hailine crack fron the pivot pin thru the sear notch and when the back trigger was pulled first it would double every time. My bud a master machinist made a new one ( actually 3) on his cnc and heat treated to the appropriate rockwell and its never doubled again. Even with the front set trigger set. And the set trigger is 1.5 oz. If i owned that 600 the action would be taken appart and all parts inspected!
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