I have an odd lot of ammo coming with supposedly 6 rounds of 350 grain 375 caliber Nosler Round nose Partition bullets included. Nosler doesn't currently list these and am wondering if they ever made them?

I have no desire to use these, it is just a question. I am plenty happy with 260 and 300 grain Partitions.

It might be possible, but the only 350s I know of are the original Barnes SP and solids. I have some.
They are OK for thin skinned DG, but nothing really tough.

Woodleigh made 350 375s.

Woodleigh made a 350 RN, I shot a number of Buffalo with them, an awesome killer. None better, made a 375 kill like my 404, BTW they made a 450 gr for the 416s and 40 caliber and 550 gr for the 458..I field tested these wonderful bullets on buffalo for Geoff. Hopefully he will bring them back at some point.

Well when they get here I will pull them down and weigh them. If 350 grain I'll let you know.

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Originally posted by 450 Fuller:
It might be possible, but the only 350s I know of are the original Barnes SP and solids. I have some.
They are OK for thin skinned DG, but nothing really tough.

Woodleigh makes some lovely 350g .375 diameter bullets as well

The Woodleigh 350gr bullet was loaded in the Norma African PH ammunition for the 375 H&H at a MV of 2300fps.

It seems those who have used this 350gr bullet have found it raises the 375 H&H to another level.

PS Woodleigh also made a Protected Point (PP) .375 bullet too but this was not loaded in the Norma PH ammuntion.

Barnes also made 350 gn bullets in 375 cal for a while. IIRC, both TSX softs and solids. But been discontinued for a while I think. One of the US Govt agencies forced them stop production as these bullets apparently had potential to be armour piercing !

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One of the US Govt agencies forced them stop production as these bullets apparently had potential to be armour piercing !

Nope that law only applies to pistol calibers

No it does not.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
No it does not.

That is why we still can buy green and black tip steel core military rounds.

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Originally posted by p dog shooter:

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One of the US Govt agencies forced them stop production as these bullets apparently had potential to be armour piercing !

Nope that law only applies to pistol calibers

Aaaaaand there is some goofy pistol cartridge in .375!

I t didn't stop 350g bullets it stopped their wonderful flat nose solid. The agency was our wonderful ATF.....

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by p dog shooter:

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One of the US Govt agencies forced them stop production as these bullets apparently had potential to be armour piercing !

Nope that law only applies to pistol calibers

Aaaaaand there is some goofy pistol cartridge in .375!

I t didn't stop 350g bullets it stopped their wonderful flat nose solid. The agency was our wonderful ATF.....

There are plenty of handguns in rifle calibers

FYI Northfork is making 350 grain 375's both softs and solids.

As far as I know "the armor piercing law" is only if you use it against LEO or to commit a crime, not about having it (FMJ or any other mono solid bullet). At least this is what we were told at CC class.

There are barnes 350 TSX on gunbroker.

I loved the 350 Woodleigh in RN and PP, tested both on Buffalo for Geoff, what is amazing is the RN and PP are the same length and work thru most actions. Geoff manufactured the RN at my suggestion but told me the protected point was a better bullet, After testing he was correct the PP was the better option, both being excellent. I should have known since he had been making bullets since BC... He graciously awarded me with a supply of both in several calibers, Good guy with good bullets.

BTY the RN 350 is softer then the PP and its fine for bulls in the thickest bush and expands to a 50 cent piece, the PP works under any and all circumstances as Elmer would say!

I received my odd lot today. Those supposed 350 grainers are 300 grain and they are not Nosler Partitions as they do not have the exposed crimped in lead at the base normally seen on Nosler Partitions. They are solid based RN soft points.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
No it does not.

YES, it does!!

It applies to use of non expanding monometal projectiles that "can be" loaded into pistol calibers, and by extension, used as "armor piercing" against law enforcement. In the case of the 375, it specifically mentioned the 375 JDJ pistol caliber as being the offender. Ridiculous as it is, this was the example provided when the Barnes 375 banded solid was banned. Of course, we've all seen 600 Nitro pistols and the like and certainly the 373 JDJ isn't a common pistol caliber, but since when has the ATF been reasonable?

Now of course, it wasn't and isn't being applied fairly or consistently as it seems only Barnes was affected. There are other brass solid manufacturers that were not affected. I'll not mention the other brand, but it's easy enough to figure out.

Here is the ATF controlling memorandum.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/d...-ammunition/download

The memo is clear May does not mean only in handguns.

The memorandum identifies 556 ammo for reclassification as not exempt for sporting purposes.

Now, if you tell me that memo has been withdrawn, I’ll go along.

Once again proving that America is a nation of laws, most of them poorly written and all of them randomly enforced.

It just takes lawyers.

All the law that the reg was based on was replace May with only.

The problem is the Enabling Act predates to common application of rifle caliber “pistols.”

I blame the industry. I mean even the TC Handguns under this memorandum cause problems.

The “sporting purpose exemption” would be the saving grace for bullets like the flat point solid that would otherwise be made of qualifying material. That would be what I would write if I were in the ATF charged w this issue.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
I blame the industry.

Seriously?

As opposed to the government?

This law was poorly written by foolish people trying to "solve" a non-existent problem for the sake of political expediency.

Manufacturers too smart by half w these “pistols”

"Only if they are used against LEO"

Even a pellet rifle is illegal when used against LEO at least when I was doing my service.

Lawyers can screw up a anvil with a powder puff!! Another untested law in the courts that certainly needs to be tested.

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Originally posted by Atkinson:

BTY the RN 350 is softer then the PP and its fine for bulls in the thickest bush and expands to a 50 cent piece, the PP works under any and all circumstances as Elmer would say!

Ray, did you shoot any smaller plainsgame, etc. with the 350 grain RN and/or PP? Curious how they performed on the smaller animals? I imagine they would do great. Also, what velocities were you getting for the rounds you used on the cape buff?

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Originally posted by Shumba:

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Originally posted by Atkinson:

BTY the RN 350 is softer then the PP and its fine for bulls in the thickest bush and expands to a 50 cent piece, the PP works under any and all circumstances as Elmer would say!

Ray, did you shoot any smaller plainsgame, etc. with the 350 grain RN and/or PP? Curious how they performed on the smaller animals? I imagine they would do great. Also, what velocities were you getting for the rounds you used on the cape buff?

On the two separate occasions when Ray was trying these bullets on Cape buffalo, I beat him to them and shot both!

I tried them in a couple of my rifles and the accuracy was much worse than any 300 or 270 gr bullets.
I assumed they were not correctly stabilized

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On the two separate occasions when Ray was trying these bullets on Cape buffalo, I beat him to them and shot both!

So, you have proven that high velocity copper/mono bullets kill faster than heavier/slower copper/leadcore bullets! (faster because you pulled the trigger faster )

Sierra makes a 350 grain Matchking.
I have loaded in a H&H, accurate but I have not hunted with them.
Matchkings are usually a fairly thin jacket, I use 308’s and open quickly, and may partner well with the FMJs for light work.

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I briefly owned a TC Contender in .375 JDJ, and shot it only with the Speer 235 and the Sierra 250-grain Game King. I cannot imagine the recoil with 350-grain bullets.

Reference Seeds referral to my referral, he swam the river loaded with crocs, slide thru snakes in the mud to the high grass to shoot my two buffalo out from under my sights, then cackled his cringing laugh..I cursed him proper and told Pierre to take me elsewhere in the concession where crazy air-rabs do not exist!! wherein to his disgust I shot the biggest buffalo Ive ever seen! Yeeehaw!!!

I had great success getting 350gr Woodleigh PP's to group out of a CZ550 with a factory barrel. I believe the charge was 69.5gr of IMR4350 over a F215 at 3.600". I don't recall what they chronographed, but I took cape buffalo and blue wildebeest with them with great effect in 2017.

Shamba,
Yes I shot some PG for the pot. They performed well enough, and killed with a 25 to 50 yard run and a few instant kills as expected with a tough bullet, about like one would expect from a 30-06 or 308