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Norma African PH ammo

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04 April 2008, 09:39
AzGuy
Norma African PH ammo
Anyone using this stuff?

Looking at the Norma website, seems like the biggest gain in perfomance goes to the 375 and 404.

Norma's #:

375 350gr @ 2300
404 450gr @ 2150
(exact same for for 416 Rem & Rigby)

Both the 458 Lott & 470 have 500gr @ 2100

Seems like the 375 & 404 "gained" in this factory loading but all the rest just stayed about the same.


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04 April 2008, 20:17
LJS
Have you looked at the pricing? It is astronomical compared to the other manufacturers! Norma prices safari ammo in increments of 10 so it is very expensive when compared equally.
04 April 2008, 20:47
studdog
I just bought a box to try out and was suprised it came with only 10 rounds. It is nice quality looking stuff however. I believe Kevin Robertson's theory about the 350 grain boosting the killing performance of the 375.


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04 April 2008, 21:35
Clayman
I'm sure it's great ammo, aside from the already mentioned ludicrous pricing. I suppose there is a market for rich people who own nice doubles and don't want to reload. I'd need a personal loan to stock up on that stuff!


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04 April 2008, 21:38
jetdrvr
This is where reloading pays off. I haven't run the numbers, but you can reload a .375 round with the same Woodleigh bullets for around a buck seventy five, given the brass amortization. The difference in cost between five hundred factory rounds and five hundred reloads, which I at least shoot prior to undertaking any DG hunt, should pay for a really good reloading setup. I see no reason to pay these exorbitant prices for Norma ammo.

I'd bet Larry at Superior would load them cheaper than factory prices, although I haven't called him and asked.
08 April 2008, 08:02
Paul Tunkis
Ok, so you shoot 500 rounds in practice before a DG hunt. I shot 300+ before my last PG hunt. Now, lets go to the Cabela's catalog and see what Norma PH ammo will run us. Hummmm, at approx $120 per 10 for 458 Lott that $6000 for you shocker, and if I use a 375 instead of my 9.3 then I'm at $2100. rotflmo

Thank God I don't have a 505! Your 500 round practice secession would run $11,500, say isn't that just about the trophy fee for a bull elephant somewhere? dancing

Wow, the ammo costs more than my last trip...
09 April 2008, 10:18
jetdrvr
At the risk of repeating myself, that's why I reload. Using Hornady 300 gr. Rn with 4350 and Rem bulk brass, it costs me about $.50/$.65 per round. That's a far cry from your figures. And I shot more than 500 last time. Likely around 800 over a nine month period. Of course, that's before Interlocks went to $22.00 from $14.00, which is what I was paying then. Don't know where you got the idea I use factory rounds for practice. I said just the opposite.
09 April 2008, 20:40
Paul Tunkis
Well, I should have been clearer in my post. My comment was speculative that "if" you or anyone else for that matter, did not reload the cost was pretty nasty. I did assume that you reloaded but was pointing out just how bloody expencive it would be to actually use Norma factory ammo for "practice".

Then again if someone owned several H&H doubles and hunted with Robin Hurt in Botswana on 21+ day full bag hunts every year maybe its not a factor.
10 April 2008, 02:24
jetdrvr
Yeah, you're right. There are those among us who can easily afford to shoot a big batch of factory rounds for practice. Of course, as the recession deepens and copper prices continue to escalate, that number is growing smaller by the week, I'd wager.