10 January 2002, 05:16
NickuduPaul,
I knew this response was coming but what took so long? Our buddies, Will and John S., must have been napping! 
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Originally posted by 500grains:
Recoil is something to be savored and enjoyed.Why would you want to minimize it?
quote:
Originally posted by 500grains:
Recoil is something to be savored and enjoyed.Why would you want to minimize it?
This from someone who has a muzzle brake on his 13# 470 capstick?
The guy who bought my 458 lott had it re-stocked with a custom sythentic, with irons it weighs in at 8 1/4#'s. I've only shot one full patch 500 gr load from it, really wasn't that bad, need to burn 5 or 10 for an accurate assesment.
As I've stated before, some of us are sick, and enjoy the big bores simply because of the brute power. I also contend (we'll see if it changes once I work up full patch 500 J loads) that a properly set up gun won't hurt you, and with the proper attitude, recoil can be dealt with.
Paul,
I knew this response was coming but what took so long? Our buddies, Will and John S., must have been napping!
I was off the net over the weekend and monday. Not sure what the others excuse is.
My plan is for the 500 Jeffrey to come to a finished weight of 10-11#'s, no break and a nice thick recoil pad.
500grs-
Sounds to me like you really don't like recoil either! 
No shame in admitting it, in fact it's a sign of maturity!
Paul H - "Mbogo 470" is really hot on the Pachmeyer Triple X pads. I plan to try one on my next bigbore, as I've had quite enough
"savoring" while benching my Gibbs.
John S. - I am feeling very mature these days.
[This message has been edited by Nickudu (edited 01-09-2002).]
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Originally posted by John S:
Sounds to me like you really don't like recoil either!
I will freely admit to still being young and foolish. I will also freely admit that I never intend to fire 20 or more rounds out of a big bore in a range session, 5 to 10 is plenty. I'd also venture to say that after working up full patch loads, 90-95% of my shooting with the 500 J will be with 450 gr cast @ 1300-1800 fps, I may be foolish, but not a fool
My style is to drop the comb and heel enough for iron sights and add a little cast off, but don't go to the extreme as on some early rifles, split the difference and that being play off the center of the bore and have enough drop to lift the barrel on firing a little and enough strightness to bring it back a little when fired, then you split up the recoil it is easier to take..Ask anyone who has shot one of my rifles in big bore configuration..
When it really gets bad ( 505, 585 et. al.) I simply want a muzzle brake combined with the above..The 505 is so damn loud that a little more noise makes no difference to me, I just don't want to die...
I recently shot a very nice well known American custom rifle with a beatifull stock and fine workmanship in 416 Rigby and the stock was stright as a 2x4 and that rascal would set you on your heels. I don't think the barrel had a inch of lift...it all came backwards. whew!! the owner traded it in for one of my rifles after shooting both.
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Ray Atkinson