I would like to hear from others who have used this bullet on plainsgame and especially from Gerard whom I'm sure has had some field reports on this...
I have noticed the same in TCCI and Barnes solids that I used to flatten the nose on in my drill press..
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Ray Atkinson
I used 500 grain .474 grain GS custom solids on impala. They worked as well as soft Hawks, which also did not expand. The GS punched very neat cookie cutter holes that bled quite nicely.
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Ray Atkinson
I shot a Hawk 750 grain .585 bullet through an elephant shoulder (dead elephant, just for fun). It went through the shoulder and hat 2.5 feet of penetration. I haven't weighed it, but I would estimate it lost more than half of its weight. It opened up like a pancake, but did not break apart.
I also shot a Hawk 500 grain .474 broadside into a kudu. It was similarly pancaked between the ribs on the opposite side but did not break apart. That was on a live animal, 2nd shot. First was a Woodleigh soft which penetrated 4 feet before coming to rest.
I don't deny that you have had bullet failures from Hawks. I just use Hawks where I want to be SURE to get expansion. To be honest, I consider them varmint bullets, but in heavy bullet weights at slow velocities, they seem to do ok.
Just an aside, the PH I used said he has seen far too many bullet failures (breakups) from Hornady and Nosler on plains game. Consequently, he wants hunters to use Swift, Barnes or Woodleigh softs, or more preferably solids on buffalo.
I suspect the PH, like most PH's was expelling his beliefs and prejudices, but like most PH's he is probably a better hunter that bullet technition, if he saw any Noslers come apart then I'm sure it was just the front blowing off, for the most part, and thats exceptable. I agree with him on the use of solids but a lot of PH with a lot of experience like softs on Buffalo...that arguments been for awhile..I have seen Swift, NOsler and Woodleigh come apart, but only on rare ocassions and that is to be expected...In fact I have seen solids come apart when driven to fast in some HV big bores.
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Ray Atkinson
I have shot quite a few kangaroos and a few pigs with 375 300 grain Hornady Round Noses loaded backwards.
Not quite African plains game and also more "severe" than GS FN solids
Ranges were close as it was in the spotlight. Accuracy was not real good.
But they sure rolled them over
Mike
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Gerard Schultz
GS Custom Bullets
I know the GS FN in a 404 kills Buffalo better than anything I have ever used, blood loss and internal damage is close to a soft point and penitration is complete.. That is all I will use from now on in my big bores for Buffalo and probably everything else, but schools still out on that..
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Ray Atkinson
One thing I would like to known, I think GS makes a 416 in 335grain bullet,how flat will that shoot vs a 375 and does it shoot as flat for plain game.I would like to known the BC of the GS flat nose,maybe instead of DGR in 375 I will take the 416.I just would like to known the trajectory of the 335 GSFN. THANKS,KEV ,correct me if I am wrong I think you can get 2900fps from a 416 335 GSFN
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Gerard Schultz
GS Custom Bullets
[This message has been edited by Terry P (edited 12-23-2001).]
Wachtel,
We have a few HVs that are G1 such as the 40 gr 224, the 62 gr 243 and the 145 gr .30. The majority are G5 and we have some G7. I should have listed the drag profiles in the tech data tables on our site from the beginning and will do so as soon as the load data section is more complete. The 375265HV and the 264110HV are both G5.
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Gerard Schultz
GS Custom Bullets