Ruger M77/44 any good??

08 November 2003, 10:13

500grains

I have not owned a 77/44 so I will not comment on it except to say that I like the claw extractor.

The 44 mag is marginal on deer and shots should be well placed and under 100 yards. On bear you are really pushing the limit by using a 44 unless you are shooting bear out of a tree with dogs underneath it.

08 November 2003, 10:48

I have heard complaints about there accuarcy, maybe a marlin lever .44 would be better I had one in the ported model but hated the noise so I got rid of it. If I bought a .44 again it would be the longer barrelled version.

08 November 2003, 12:27

Judy

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posted 11-08-2003 01:05
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Are these good rifles? Would use it for deer mostly. How effective is the 44 magnum for deer, black bear, and such?

Thanks.
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Guys, I thank you for your replies. This post was from me, and when I stopped in to recheck here discovered someone else had been posting with my handle. I've changed my password so it shouldn't be a problem again I hope!

08 November 2003, 14:40

Chuck White

I have a Ruger 77-44 and I like it a lot!

I shoot 240 grain XTP's and group at a little less than 3 inches at 100 yards!

Now guys, don't get excited! Three inch groups at 100 yards is great, if you limit your shots to 100 yards and that's what anyone with a 44 should do! The "Rainbow Trajectory", ya know!

Question on this same subject!
How come everyone is so quick to label the 44Mag rifles as marginal for deer and yet, on the other hand, they will talk about 50-60 yard shots on deer with a hand-gun? You know that the rifle, even a carbine has to have more punch than the hand-gun!

08 November 2003, 15:04

jeffeosso

quote:
Originally posted by Judy:
Judy
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Member # 9575

posted 11-08-2003 01:05
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Are these good rifles? Would use it for deer mostly. How effective is the 44 magnum for deer, black bear, and such?

Thanks.
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Guys, I thank you for your replies. This post was from me, and when I stopped in to recheck here discovered someone else had been posting with my handle. I've changed my password so it shouldn't be a problem again I hope!

wow... hey... didn't todd have multi posters on his handle BEFORE he gave the password away?

coinsidence?

btw, it's a great rifle, low recoil, decent accuracy is possible, and, imho a better hunting rifle than the 44 semi auto carbine.

jeffe

09 November 2003, 18:01

45LCshooter

quote:
Originally posted by Chuck White:
Question on this same subject!
How come everyone is so quick to label the 44Mag rifles as marginal for deer and yet, on the other hand, they will talk about 50-60 yard shots on deer with a hand-gun? You know that the rifle, even a carbine has to have more punch than the hand-gun!

Not me! I consider the advantage over the equally loaded pistol being reach but may I ask you how the bullets hold up on close range shots at the higher velocities? Not that it matters with hardcasts, but what about JHP's?

11 November 2003, 16:10

Chuck White

Hey 45;
I couldn't really tell you how well the bullet held up, because I've never recovered a bullet from my 44, fired on deer!
I'd like to, but it seems that I always get a pass-through!
The exit hole on a straight through the ribs shot, hitting a rib on the way in, and on the way out was about the size of a silver dollar! That's a shot with the 240grain XTP at about 25-30 yards! The deer went about 40-50 feet then piled up!

12 November 2003, 01:20

jeffeosso

you know what? if they ever came out with a 77/45 I would be one of the first buying it the DAY it was released....

just think how nice it could be for RUGER to actually sell a RIFLE that does with their best selling (longterm) single action line?

Jeffe

12 November 2003, 04:52

Kent in IA

After playing with the 50 Beowulf, I would definitely recommend using a real rifle cartidged big bore. Sorry guys, these pistol cartridge chambered big bore are cheap to shoot, but lack that real big bore punch! It is the punch that it is all about!!

Kent

12 November 2003, 08:31

eshell

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Originally posted by Kent in IA:
After playing with the 50 Beowulf, I would definitely recommend using a real rifle cartidged big bore. Sorry guys, these pistol cartridge chambered big bore are cheap to shoot, but lack that real big bore punch! It is the punch that it is all about!!

Kent

I'd definitely agree that the Beowolf and the .44 Mag have less energy than a "regular big-bore" rifle round, but I don't think really heavy game is on the menu here.

I shot next to a fellow with a Beowolf at the Ohio "BulletFest" in June and it didn't seem like anything special. Looked like a short 45-70 with a rim turned off and rebated to the dreaded 7.62x39 head size.

I understand that the original development was intended to provide a good close range impact for entry-type law enforcement work, compared to the normal 5.56mm M-16 round.

The .44's lethality, within it's limitations, is fine for non-dangerous game, IMO. The .44 XTP's have been working well for me, both in my muzzleloader with sabots at 1,750-1,800 fps, from a 8" T/C .44 and from a 16" T/C .445 SuperMag. I have taken deer with each out to 100 yards with fine results.

I am looking at the 77/44 in a suppressed version from Advanced Armament called a "Rhino" and wondered, too, how accuracy was. I had owned a 77/22 Hornet and was disappointed with it. I later found out the two-piece bolt was a major obstacle to improving accuracy and I wonder if the 77/44 shares this or other features. [Confused]