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14 December 2009, 00:04
Kingfisher
Ruger 77 416 Rigby scope suggestions?
Guys, I'd like to get around to scoping my model 77 in 416 Rigby in teh next couple of months and I'm looking for any suggestions. want something for $500 or less preferably. Leupold, or maybe a Burris safari. The toughest part is the mounting. It has to fit the long action and widely space rings unfortunately.

Thoughts? Suggestions?
14 December 2009, 00:33
RIP
Leupold 1.5-5X is perfect.

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14 December 2009, 01:25
Big Bore Boar Hunter
Most 77's fit the VXIII 1.5-5. It is a tight fit but seems to work well for most. You could mount the FX 2x28 ultralight, but the rear mount will be on the threads.

John
14 December 2009, 01:58
Idaho Sharpshooter
My CZ in 416 Rigby seems to me to be about the perfect out to 300 yard rifle. It wears a Leupold 2.5-8X scope in medium rings. Shop here for a used one if you have that budget.

Rich
14 December 2009, 02:07
Kingfisher
Excellent guys, thanks for the suggestions, keep'em coming. My father also had a 2.5-8x on his CZ in 458 Lott. Just hadn't decided if I wanted to go that route or not. May just have to give it a try. Smiler
14 December 2009, 06:34
ScottS
Zeiss Conquest 3X9 40mm.
14 December 2009, 16:10
michael458
Leupold 1.5X5 VX3
Leupold 1.75X6 VX3
Leupold 2.5X8 VX3

On most of my 416s I go with the 1.75X6

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14 December 2009, 17:54
Labman
My 416 Rigby RSM wears a Leupold VXIII 1x5 as others have suggested. I've also used my older Leupold 3x as a backup. The 3X with it's long straight tube fits very well. Unfortunately, Leupold stopped making these scopes years ago.


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14 December 2009, 18:14
DWright
Anything will work fine, as long as it's a 1.5-5 Leupold.


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14 December 2009, 18:26
MFD
I have found the Leupold FX 2.5 UL on my RSM to be one tough scope and as mentioned does end up w/ the rear rings engaging some of the threads for the eyepiece, but no problems. Have variables, not a fan of them, feel the simpler the better but to each his own.
14 December 2009, 22:32
trophyhunter5000
Had a leupold 2.5 M8 (now called ultralight) on my 416 M77MKII...

I took it to Zim as a back up for buff and wasn't worried about magnification...

I wasn't intending on hunting PG but killed both my bull buffs halfway through my hunt...

I wanted to keep hunting so I took my 416 after whatever PG they had on quota (put my heavy back in the gun case)...

2.5X worked fine on baboon and impala out around 150 paces (buff cow at 40)...

Passed up a Kudu at long range but probably woulnd't have taken that shot regardless of what scope I had...


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14 December 2009, 23:12
Idaho Sharpshooter
This last post is why I put a 2.5-8X on mine. If 2.5X is too much, you need to go to the irons. At 8X it will work out to 300 yards on the sticks.
The 416 Rigby and the 404 Jeffery's are that versatile, IMHO.

Rich
14 December 2009, 23:58
Kingfisher
Got it guys. Thanks. I know that the variable might be cumbersome, if I have a shot where the range is getting a little long, it'd be mice to have a little more magnification. Plus, I'll likely be using it for plains game or something here in north America well before I use it for DG. So it sounds like the 2.5-8 is probably where I'll end up. Then if I'm going after DG, I'll either pull the scope (not likely) or get a small fixed power. If anyway, has any other suggestions though let me know.
15 December 2009, 03:37
Buliwyf
My Ruger M77 RSM wears a Zeiss Conquest 2.5-8x32 which is ideal with the intergal quarter-rib and plently long enough to bridge the big RSM action. Used this rig on buff this year.

My next choice would be the Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40 (not sure about the 40mm objective clearing the quarter-rib however).
15 December 2009, 08:54
458Win
2 1/2 Leupold compact.


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15 December 2009, 11:28
jetdrvr
I would definitely go with the 1.5-5x20 Leupold with the German #4 reticle. I've had one on my .375 for four years. A new one is going on my new .458 Win soon.

I've killed two buff with the .375, one at 20 yards. The 2.5 would have been too much at that range. You never know. I've also taken plains game at over 300 yards. The larger field of view with the low power will come in handy if a buff appears at 15 or 20 yards. And if you can't hit a wildebeest at 300 yards with a five power scope, you need to practice more.
15 December 2009, 20:40
Idaho Sharpshooter
hard to argue with jetdrvr's logic. But I will...
At 20 yards any scope would frustrate me. Under 50 yards, irons.

Plenty of experience talking scopes here. I think you will be happy with the 2.5-8X. I have them on two other big bore rifles.

Good hunting...

Rich
15 December 2009, 22:34
trophyhunter5000
quote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
This last post is why I put a 2.5-8X on mine. If 2.5X is too much, you need to go to the irons. At 8X it will work out to 300 yards on the sticks.
The 416 Rigby and the 404 Jeffery's are that versatile, IMHO.

Rich


Yeah,

There were a couple of times I wish I had a little more magnification...


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16 December 2009, 03:01
Big Bore Boar Hunter
Depends on what you are shooting, but 5 power is good for 300 yd shots on Large critters. Us Army takes man size targets out to 800 yds on 10x, a 5x should be good on buffalo size critters.

2.5x is a disadvantage for dangerous game. With 1.5 power and less you can bring the gun to bear with both eyes open and still be able to see the target through the scope.

John
16 December 2009, 03:08
Idaho Sharpshooter
Yessssssss, but they are even happier with a good wound than a kill. You take more soldiers out to treat him and get him back to the aid station.
I'll stick with my suggestion, if 2.5X is too much you need to flip those two levers and look at your iron sights.

Rich
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16 December 2009, 03:09
Oldcoyote
Leupold 1.5 - 5. Backup scope in spare set of rings, 2 3/4 Redfield vintage 1967.


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16 December 2009, 04:23
Big Bore Boar Hunter
quote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Yessssssss, but they are even happier with a good wound than a kill. You take more soldiers out to treat him and get him back to the aid station.
I'll stick with my suggestion, if 2.5X is too much you need to flip those two levers and look at your iron sights.

Rich
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16 December 2009, 20:02
Kingfisher
Easy boys. Back on topic. I'll tell you what I'd like to have, but they no longer make it... I would like to have a Burris Sig. Safari 1.75-5x32 with the LRS Fastplex reticle. That always seemed like it would be a perfect reticle for something nasty, and it falls in the range, power wise, of what we're all talking about here. Problem is Burris doesn't make the scope anymore, and they're hard to come by. I did find one for sale on the www, but it doesn't have the Fastplex reticle. Regardless, I think it'd probably meet my requirements. Anyone know if the scope itself is long enough in the tube to fit the ring spacing on the Ruger? I'll call Burris if I have to, I just thought I'd see if anyone knew or had experience with the scope. Seems to me that I did a search on here a while back and the reviews of the fastplex version were good atleast.
16 December 2009, 22:18
kreyten
Kingfisher,

I put a Burris 30 mm Euro-Diamond in 1x4x26mm with german 4p on a ruger 375 alaskan. I used warne QD rings.

The setup works great. If you can't find the Sig. Safari..you might consider this scope. I think it should fit your 416 no problems.

Think I paid about 460$ for the scope a couple of summers ago. Nice, tough scope with 30 mm tube and the burris posi lock.
Good luck.
17 December 2009, 08:50
Big Bore Boar Hunter
quote:
Originally posted by Kingfisher:
Easy boys. Back on topic. I'll tell you what I'd like to have, but they no longer make it... I would like to have a Burris Sig. Safari 1.75-5x32 with the LRS Fastplex reticle. That always seemed like it would be a perfect reticle for something nasty, and it falls in the range, power wise, of what we're all talking about here. Problem is Burris doesn't make the scope anymore, and they're hard to come by. I did find one for sale on the www, but it doesn't have the Fastplex reticle. Regardless, I think it'd probably meet my requirements. Anyone know if the scope itself is long enough in the tube to fit the ring spacing on the Ruger? I'll call Burris if I have to, I just thought I'd see if anyone knew or had experience with the scope. Seems to me that I did a search on here a while back and the reviews of the fastplex version were good atleast.


Leupold makes a 1.75-6x which is a good scope, not sure if they will match the Burris reticle though.

John
18 December 2009, 21:35
El Deguello
quote:
Originally posted by RIP:
Leupold 1.5-5X is perfect.


So it is on my CZ in that caliber.


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19 December 2009, 16:46
massad
I have one on my .458 RSM...great eye relief....has held up so far to the heavy stuff..Mike
22 December 2009, 10:07
rigs
I have an older Baush & Lomb 4200 1.75X6 that works very nice and fits perfectly on my 416 Rigby.