Weight of a .375?

18 January 2015, 07:59

RIP

Weight of a .375?

quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
My 375/404 is 9 pounds with scope and magazine full of ammo.

I have been using it for years hunting in Africa.

I carry it all the time myself, and do not find it tiring at all.

I never saw Saeed put his loaded, scoped .375/404 Jeffery rifle on the scales but there he is, rock-hopping with two fully loaded 9-pounders in Tanzania, 2010.

Seriously:
I find this 9-pound weight to be incredible, unless the stock on Saeed's rifle weighs little more than one pound.

The No. 6 contour, fluted, 26-inch long, stainless Dan Lilja barrel is indeed as light as a No. 3 sporter contour of same length and .375-caliber.
Within an ounce.
Amazing but true.
That is as light a barrel as anyone should consider on a .375-cal rifle.
Dan Lilja will not flute a stainless .375-caliber barrel lighter than his No. 6 sporter contour, for safety reasons.

So it would probably take a 1 pound stock to properly balance so light a barrel.

I really need a 1-pound stock for a Dakota 76 African.

Where do I get one?

Please!

From my records, recipe for a 6.75-pound "dry-weight" CRF .375 H&H, that is about 8.5 pounds loaded and scoped, and perfecly balanced,
about 7.5 pounds with receiver sight and loaded with 4 rounds of .375 H&H down in the box,
the only barrel sight was a banded front NECG:

Number 3 Sporter Contour Douglas barrel 24" length
Pre-64 Winchester M70 action (formerly a 1958-vintage 300 H&H)
One-pound stock (Brown Precision "Pounder" with 1-inch Pachmayr Decelerator pad)

18 January 2015, 09:48

RIP

Great factory .375 rifles, dry, bare, unloaded weights:

.375 H&H, Winchester M70 Alaskan from South Carolina, walnut and blue, 25" barrel: 7 lbs 10 oz
Barreled Action Weight: 5 lbs 10 oz
The walnut stock is 2 lbs 0 oz.

.375 Ruger, Ruger M77 Hawkeye African, First Generation, walnut and blue, 23" barrel: 7 lbs 12 oz
Barreled Action Weight: 6 lbs 0 oz
The walnut stock is 1 pound 12 oz.

.375 Ruger, Ruger M77 Hawkeye Alaskan , Stainless Synthetic, 20" barrel, "Second Generation"
in 2.5 lbs of Hogue rubberized stock: 8 lbs 4 oz

Or in 1.75 lbs old factory canoe paddle synthetic stock: 7 lbs 8 oz

Barreled Action Weight: 5 lbs 12 oz

The 25"-barreled Win M70 Alaskan in a 1-pound synthetic stock would be 6 lbs 10 oz.
Perfect for a .375 H&H, under 8.5 lbs fully loaded and field ready, with a Leupold 2.5-8X.

25" muzzle diameter: 0.640"

That is a special contour, great taper near the breech and then an integral doughnut for rear sight dovetail, then a little straight taper to muzzle.
Featherweight contour for a .375 H&H.

The lightweight "custom" rifle is 0.625" diameter at 24" muzzle, a standard No. 3 sporter contour from Douglas.
It is smaller diameter at the muzzle and 1 inch shorter, but a little heavier weight overall than the Alaskan barrel.

18 January 2015, 10:27

rnovi

My Montana 1999 .375 H&H 20" bbl with a Boyds laminate stock comes in at 10.5#, scoped (leica 2.5-10x42) with four down.

Personally I'd love to get it down to 9#...a Micky blind stock would likely do it but I'm rather lazy with this one.

19 January 2015, 03:27

Cold Trigger Finger

quote:
Originally posted by zimbabwe:
I have a 458WinMag built on an 03A3 action probably in the 50's. I'm guessing built as a backup for a professional. Maybe Africa maybe Alaska. It was built by A&M Rifle Co in Prescott,Az. Handle has been forged lower and root is marked as one of the name gunsmiths of the time used to do. Safety is a 3 position Mdl 70 type, Trigger is a Timney. Scope is a Norman-Ford Texan (basically same as a Lyman Alaskan) in a G&H side mount.Front sight base is a long Lyman banded ramp with a very long Sourdough blade with gold insert. Rear sight is a Williams adjustable island type. Stock is a nice piece of what appears to be Birch with a Niedner stel buttplate and a Steel grip cap. Stock is a lightweight with crosspins and a schnabel foreend. Nice basic checkering pattern.Front slingwivel base is a custom barrel band type. The hooker is the barrel is 16 1/2" and it weighs 7.5 lbs. It is the handiest quick shooting big bore I have ever handled. Would have liked to have used it in Africa. It does occupy your attention when you pull the trigger. I wear a PAST shoulder pad and use a slip over recoil pad and it's really not too bad. That's one of two short bareled 03's I have and both have Mdl 70 safties the same manner and marked forged bolt handle,both have G&H mounts with Lyman Alaskan 7/8's scopes and both have 16 1/2" barrels. The othe is 30-06 with all the wood cut down and replaced so it looks like abreviated 03. Have no idea who built it but he was a pro for sure.

Do you have a picture of this rifle. It sounds like quite a rifle.

Phil Shoemaker : "I went to a .30-06 on a fine old Mauser action. That worked successfully for a few years until a wounded, vindictive brown bear taught me that precise bullet placement is not always possible in thick alders, at spitting distances and when time is measured in split seconds. Lucky to come out of that lesson alive, I decided to look for a more suitable rifle."

19 January 2015, 20:41

gunslinger55

Steel but plate? Yikes!

20 January 2015, 05:09

chuck375

Rem XCR II 375 Weatherby, 7 1/2 lbs with Leupold 2-7x Firedot (now has Talley QR rings, got rid of those ugly nickel ones), unloaded without sling. Mods: rechambered form 375 H&H to 375 Weatherby, Sako extractor, bolt handle welded on (you forum guys made me paranoid lol)

20 January 2015, 09:53

Sean Russell

I don't have a .375, but my 416 B&M weighs 9 and half pounds-scope, sling and 6 rounds.

Just right for me.

20 January 2015, 13:31

Cold Trigger Finger

Chuck ; Nice Bear. Was that when it was an H+H or as the Whby? Even tho they aren't a crf, I do like the Model 700 in the larger cart from 338 Rum up to 416 Rem Mag. I had a model 700 in 375 HandH and one in 338 RUM. Both fed, extracted and ejected very well . A very good friend has shot for his life with his 416 Custom Shop 22" 416 and it has never let him down. I like the rubber stocks the put on at the factory. They soak up a lot of recoil and seem to stand up well. And the actions are Slick. . I wouldn't want an push feed rifle as a stand alone Alaska Wilderness rifle. But I do like them for a shooting rifle.

20 January 2015, 16:37

scutulatus

FN Browning spent 15 years as a loner in Africa weighs 8.3#

21 January 2015, 02:53

gunslinger55

My gunsmith put a carbon fiber crossbolt in it as well. Looks good anyway

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21 January 2015, 06:18

chuck375

quote:
Originally posted by Cold Trigger Finger:
Chuck ; Nice Bear. Was that when it was an H+H or as the Whby? Even tho they aren't a crf, I do like the Model 700 in the larger cart from 338 Rum up to 416 Rem Mag. I had a model 700 in 375 HandH and one in 338 RUM. Both fed, extracted and ejected very well . A very good friend has shot for his life with his 416 Custom Shop 22" 416 and it has never let him down. I like the rubber stocks the put on at the factory. They soak up a lot of recoil and seem to stand up well. And the actions are Slick. . I wouldn't want an push feed rifle as a stand alone Alaska Wilderness rifle. But I do like them for a shooting rifle.

Thanks! I wanted to take my CZ 550 in 500 Jeffery (not that I needed it, but I love that rifle, but folks talked me out of taking a blued/walnut rifle). I used Rem factory Safari Grade 375 H&H 300g A-Frames. It only took one but we did have to go into the thick stuff after him, found him dead in that mini bog. An exciting 10 minutes. First shot was at a measured (later) 13 yards through the right front shoulder, passed diagonally through the bear and ended up in the far hide after going through his left thigh. The bear made some scary noises for about 5 minutes, when he quieted down we went in following the huge blood trail. The bullet was like an A-Frame advertisement when my guide Jason dug it out.
It still weighed 299.5 grains.

21 January 2015, 07:45

gunslinger55

Taking the same load. Looks good

quote:
Originally posted by chuck375:
quote:
Originally posted by Cold Trigger Finger:
Chuck ; Nice Bear. Was that when it was an H+H or as the Whby? Even tho they aren't a crf, I do like the Model 700 in the larger cart from 338 Rum up to 416 Rem Mag. I had a model 700 in 375 HandH and one in 338 RUM. Both fed, extracted and ejected very well . A very good friend has shot for his life with his 416 Custom Shop 22" 416 and it has never let him down. I like the rubber stocks the put on at the factory. They soak up a lot of recoil and seem to stand up well. And the actions are Slick. . I wouldn't want an push feed rifle as a stand alone Alaska Wilderness rifle. But I do like them for a shooting rifle.

Thanks! I wanted to take my CZ 550 in 500 Jeffery (not that I needed it, but I love that rifle, but folks talked me out of taking a blued/walnut rifle). I used Rem factory Safari Grade 375 H&H 300g A-Frames. It only took one but we did have to go into the thick stuff after him, found him dead in that mini bog. An exciting 10 minutes. First shot was at a measured (later) 13 yards through the right front shoulder, passed diagonally through the bear and ended up in the far hide after going through his left thigh. The bear made some scary noises for about 5 minutes, when he quieted down we went in following the huge blood trail. The bullet was like an A-Frame advertisement when my guide Jason dug it out.
It still weighed 299.5 grains.

22 January 2015, 00:39

Cold Trigger Finger

13 yards. That is a true trophy! !