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Canvas slings
09 July 2008, 11:07
Ol BullCanvas slings
Where can i get a canvas rifle sling? I can't seem to find one anywere.
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09 July 2008, 11:19
MacifejThey only show leather here but I have a canvass one on my case.
Call em up & see if they have something not shown on their site.
Boyt HarnessI have a
Trader Keith Canvas sling. It is well made and has a very nice leather/brass stud securing system on the ends of the sling.
Just go to the link above and call them. Their webiste hasn't worked in years, but thnak goodness their canvas slings do!
Rusty
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09 July 2008, 13:21
Ol BullThanks guys....but i think i found what i want at Mulholland Classic Safari.com

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That is the same sling that Trader Keith sells!
Rusty
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DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member
"I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends."
----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836
"I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841
"for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson
Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.”
quote:
Originally posted by Ol Bull:
Thanks guys....but i think i found what i want at Mulholland Classic Safari.com
You got a link? I can't seem to find the domain.
Thanks!
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Why Canvas?
What advantages does it have over leather?
Or although cheaper looking nylon?
10 July 2008, 23:06
Ol BullRusty, thanks for the input. Sounds like you are happy with yours!
Steve, try store.hendershots.net and see if that works.
ddunn, because i have leather and i want to try something different

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quote:
store.hendershots.net
You could also try:
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DDunn,
They are very comfortable, and they provide a nostalgic look to our double rifles. They have two rubber strips on the inside of the sling that prevents it from crawling off your shoulder!
Rusty
We Band of Brothers!
DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member
"I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends."
----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836
"I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841
"for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson
Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.”
11 July 2008, 01:31
zimbabweCabelas did have the exact same sling for a very cheap price but don't find it in their current catalog. Lucky I got a couple of extras last time I ordered. Incidentally they wash well when the get dirty. I find them very comfortable and they look good also. I've used them om all my rifles for some years.
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I have all Leather slings on my rifles. When I first get the sling I whip it with oil pretty heavily then let it sit over night. By morning the oil is soaked in And in a week or so the odor leaves.
11 July 2008, 13:29
ozhunterI have found the canvas Trader Keith slings the best.
In fact I bought twelve of them.
They are the same as Mulholland.
Most typs of Oil rot Leather and it is recommended to only use the best Bees wax leather additives.
quote:
Originally posted by ozhunter:
I have found the canvas Trader Keith slings the best.
In fact I bought twelve of them.
They are the same as Mulholland.
Most typs of Oil rot Leather and it is recommended to only use the best Bees wax leather additives.
I'm unclear as to how these attach. Does it use swivels? If so do you have to use custom ones to fit the larger holes of the a double or do I need to make a brass sleeve to use standard swivels?
I need something for my double. Needs to be able to detach easily, quiet, and not mar things. All pretty obvious requirements.
I'm sure it Rusty, OZhunter, and others are using them, then they're fine. But I'd love a description or better yet a photo. The one on the web site doesn't have a good shot of the attachment mechanism.
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11 July 2008, 19:23
PeglegDon't overlook the Westley/Richards canvas slings. Very nice and very well made.
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11 July 2008, 21:14
Ol BullPegleg, thanks for help...thats a very nice sling but i like the style of the Mulholland Classic better.
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11 July 2008, 23:40
450/400I bought the Westley Richards and took it with me to Namibia. The quality is great and it was very comfortable.
12 July 2008, 00:59
SDhunterDoes anybody make canvas slings that you can tie on to existing swivel studs?
Makes sense to get rid of a couple pieces of hardware (sling swivels) if you don't need to quickly detach the sling.
SD Hunter:
Try
www.jeffsoutfitters.com They have both the traditional tie on slings plus the hook type swivels that go on a regular sling but hook through the studs.
RCG
quote:
Originally posted by jro45:
I have all Leather slings on my rifles. When I first get the sling I whip it with oil pretty heavily then let it sit over night. By morning the oil is soaked in And in a week or so the odor leaves.
Never had any problem with my slings rotting.
Been doing this 30 years.
12 July 2008, 18:01
SDhunterRCG,
Thanks for the link.
13 July 2008, 01:27
TimberlineSteve, here are a couple of photos of a Trader Keith canvas sling on a Dakota M76 Safari. The sling attaches with standard quick-detach swivels.
As others have pointed out, these 1.5-inch-wide canvas slings work very well.They tend not to slip off your shoulder as standard leather and nylon do. And they look great. With quick-detach swivels, they can be taken off of your rifle, folded up and stuffed in your pocket or pack in just second.
13 July 2008, 08:34
Ol BullTimberline, that looks almost as good as it will on my M98 450 G&A

Seriously, very nice

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13 July 2008, 09:12
SDhunterWhich metal quick detach slings swivels are the best?
I went with polymer on my synthetics rifles for noise reduction. The metal ones seem to make an awful lot of noise. They would squeak and clank against the stock.
13 July 2008, 13:20
ozhunterquote:
Originally posted by SDhunter:
Which metal quick detach slings swivels are the best?
I use US Tallon , German Recknagel and Blaser QD Swivels.
14 July 2008, 01:20
TimberlineSDhunter – As you probably know, sling swivels are available in a variety of styles, levels of quality and materials.
The polymer swivels are indeed quiet and lightweight. Good examples include the Quake Industries Hush Stalker Swivels and the old Butler Creek synthetic swivels. Unfortunately, neither of those polymer swivels are IMHO really QUICK-detach. The Hush Stalker Swivels utilize a small screw-in crossbar that can be carefully unscrewed to detach the swivels from the gun’s stud, but it is hardly quick. And if you should go a bit too far on the unscrewing and drop and lose the crossbar, you are basically SOL. Personally, I also find the Hush Stalkers a bit wide and bulky.
Link to Quake Hush Stalker Swivels -
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=455950In polymer swivels, I actually prefer the old Butler Creek polymer swivels (not sure if they’re even offered any more). They attached to the rifle with a U-shaped bar that was pushed through the swivel and the rifle’s stud. They worked great, but were not quick-detach by any means.
In metal swivels, the best I’ve used are the European Style 7/8-inch Quick Detach Swivels offered by New England Custom Gun Service. They are pricey, but the quality is superb and I much prefer the smaller 7/8-inch size. Standard metal swivels are 1†in width. These NECG 7/8-inch swivels are a good bit less bully than standard 1-inch swivels. They are also available for American or European studs to fit your gun perfectly
NECG Link:
http://www.newenglandcustomgun.com/ At last year’s SCI Show in Reno, Trader Keith also introduced what they called a ¾-inch canvas sling. That sling features smaller leather attachments made especially for the NECG 7/8-inch swivels, making the whole setup as trim and sleek as possible. Just the sling’s leather attachments are smaller. The canvas is the same 1.5-inch wide. Order the ¾-inch sling from Trader Keith and the European-style 7/8-inch swivels from NECG.
That exact sling setup is what is pictured above on my Dakota Safari on my previous post on this thread, although the angle of the photos doesn’t really show the smaller width of the leather attachment and the NECG swivels.
For me, it seems quite important that a sling on an African-bound big bore be QUICKLY detachable. And by “quick†I mean just seconds to detach and nothing to lose. I have routinely hunted DG without a sling on my rifle, but on those looooooong-walk situations where a sling comes in handy, I want to be able to take it off the rifle in an instant. A classy Trader Keith canvas sling with quality NECG swivels allows me to do that.
14 July 2008, 07:51
SDhunterI am showing some naivete here, but what is the difference between American and European studs?
14 July 2008, 13:37
ozhunterquote:
Originally posted by SDhunter:
I am showing some naivete here, but what is the difference between American and European studs?
Euro suits 20mm slings and US suits 25mm/ 1" sling bases.
The Swivel Studs are also 6 and 8mm wide.
14 July 2008, 15:12
jetdrvrquote:
Most typs of Oil rot Leather and it is recommended to only use the best Bees wax leather additives
Use Lexol. Been using it on three pair of Lucchese boots I bought in the 70's and they're still soft.
16 July 2008, 04:13
AtkinsonSlings are an obomanation of man! More good shots have been missed over a slung rifle than any thing I can think of!

I carry a 7/8th inch sling with QD's in my day pack and I'm not sure that I have ever used it, but if the ocassion arises I will, if I remember its there and I have packed out a couple of deer without using it for that reason.

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16 July 2008, 11:01
470drshooterI also bought a Wesley Richards canvas sling. Its wide width makes it a very confortable sling. Used it on an Axis deer hunt on Molokai in May and found it to work well.
16 July 2008, 14:38
pichon1quote:
Originally posted by Timberline:
Steve, here are a couple of photos of a Trader Keith canvas sling on a Dakota M76 Safari. The sling attaches with standard quick-detach swivels.
As others have pointed out, these 1.5-inch-wide canvas slings work very well.They tend not to slip off your shoulder as standard leather and nylon do. And they look great. With quick-detach swivels, they can be taken off of your rifle, folded up and stuffed in your pocket or pack in just second.
That is one beautiful rifle!!!
18 July 2008, 11:57
Ol BullTimberline, where can i get a copy of that book??? Amazon has one with the same title but not the same cover page. Ant chance it's the same book?
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18 July 2008, 17:15
Larry SellersWhat is everyones' definition of "quick release" when slings are concerned? I would think that the time to just undo at the leather attachment point would take less than 30 seconds in most cases. If a shot goes astray, and a follow up in the jess results, surely a half minutes worth of time to remove the sling, and take a couple of deep breaths would not hinder the operation? If a charge is in effect on the first shot, then no matter how quickly the sling could be removed is not of much importance as one would most likely only be thinking about cranking off that next round. Even if the rifle is being carried with a sling, an animal spotted and preparation for a stalk is devised, removing the sling via the leather attachments would not seem a problem.
Let's hear some examples where really "quick detach" would have some bearing?
Larry Sellers
SCI Life Member
19 July 2008, 04:12
Ol BullLarry, i'm with you. I can have mine off in 30 seconds or less and put away...less if it goes on the ground.

" If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand which feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countryman " Samuel Adams, 1772
19 July 2008, 21:04
TimberlineOl Bull - That particular book is an original 1909 Edition of Teddy Roosevelt’s famous “African Game Trails.†This popular book has been reprinted quite a number of times since then.
Larry Sellers – Good question. My own QD-sling definition is probably something like...on and off in no more than ten seconds, with absolutely no parts that can be lost and it must be 100% secure when re-attached. Quality standard-design, push-button metal swivels seem to do that just fine.
For me, a QD sling is more a matter of versatility and convenience than anything else. I want the option of being able to use such a sling for a carrying strap if that need/desire arises. But I also want to be able remove that sling easily and in just seconds when it’s not needed or wanted.