02 November 2004, 03:24
fireman.404 Jeffery in a Ruger No. 1
I have a couple of questions about these. How rare or uncommon are they? What is the price they are bringing?
I have seen one listed on GunsAmerica for about $2000. Is that realistic? I have seen 3 at a local show. Last month a guy had one slightly used with dies, brass and bullets for $750. I just missed one this weekend with dies and loaded ammo for about $800, I think. Another guy had one guy for $1000 but I think $900 would have bought it.
One more question is the .404 the standard tropical model like a .375? Is a .405 win. in a no. 1 also a standard tropical model?
02 November 2004, 03:26
UrodojiWhy spend 2000 bucks on an old used one, when you can just buy a new one(or an action from Brownells) and have a gunsmith rebarrel it for you? You could have the rifle completed for way under 2000 bucks.
02 November 2004, 04:18
fredj338My understanding is they are the 'H' model. If you are looking for a shooter, I would spend more than $1000 or so. You can get any used #1H & have it rebarreled for close to that. If you can get dies & ammo/cases, even better. It's a great old cart. that still gets it done right.
02 November 2004, 04:42
fla3006I'm not sure of the number but Ruger #1 404s are fairly uncommon. $800 with dies, brass, ammo is a decent price.
02 November 2004, 05:21
ChuckWagonI have seen three trade this year for $1800 ish. I'd never pay that but If I saw one for under 1k it would be coming home. In fact under $1200 is a real bargain based on what I've seen this year. I have seen claims that Ruger made 50, 60, 500. I really have no idea but I expect it was a lot closer to the 500 mark.
02 November 2004, 06:19
firemanGeorge, All 3 were clearly marked .404. There is a chance that 2 of them were the same rifle, the one from last month could have been the one with the loaded ammo and dies. That would make sense. Guy probably loaded up a some shot it and them decided to sell it
. I did see a .405 at the same show. That is also the tropical model isn't it? I looked at it but can'tr remember now.
02 November 2004, 07:06
ChuckWagonGeorge no chance of that and every claim I've seen on the numbers Ruger made were all different. Cabelas sold two this year I know of plus one locally. In either event each sale was around $1800 give or take a few bucks. I think Ruger made a regular run and another run for some special group. I'm not sure but there seem to be a lot of them floating around for a run of 50-60 guns. I've had a much harder time locating guns with runs that were higher than that, But If I could get 2k for a rifle I paid $600 for I'm certain I'd sell it as well !
02 November 2004, 07:31
GeorgeSThanks, fireman and ChuckWagon. I had read that there were very few of these .404s produced, and the item was dropped by Ruger because of a lack of 'standard' chamber dimensions and ammunition specifications.
A .404 Jeffery would be far more interesting to me than a .405 Winchester, even if it was chambered in a Ruger.
George
02 November 2004, 08:18
M77If you "see" any more send me a mesage as I'm looking for 1 in a ruger.
02 November 2004, 10:06
AtkinsonI can sell about any Ruger 1H in 404 for $1800...That is what they are bringing....You should have bought them all. I would have.
I have one in a 416 Rem. for sale at $650 and its very very accurate and as new...
02 November 2004, 10:40
ChuckWagonThere's one on guns America right now for 2k !
02 November 2004, 13:06
firemanOK, I am really pounding my head against the desk. That one for a grand looks pretty good about now.
02 November 2004, 13:49
ChuckWagonIf you see one for a grand BUY IT ! It will be a better investment than your 401k this year.....Plus its a lot more fun than looking at a piece of paper !
03 November 2004, 12:33
UrodojiI asked one of my distributers how many orders Ruger would need to do a custom run. I was told 70 or 80. No reason AR couldn't have a run of rifles done!