I'll believe it when I see it.

I've never seen a muzzle brake that didn't increase the db's

That one in the link looks like it has a gas-pocket to trap some of the gas, and give it a silencer-esque function ... certainly not to the point of silencing anything, for sure, but those "bubbles" might trap a little before sending more out the top, giving most of the pressure wave time to go out the front?

I'm not sure how effective that would be, but it might be worth measuring it in a sound box to see. I really don't think it would work, and I'd be concerned that those "bubbles" will get a lot of wear and erosion.

This note for some of you, you know who you are!!! It is BRAKE, not break, even if it does breac ur heerig you should spel it rit.

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Originally posted by bulldog563:
I'll believe it when I see it.

You and me both!!! There is no such thing as a QUIET brake. Even this one. Lawdog

The only one making any sense here is Robgunbuilder.Know, I would like to know which brand works best.

I shoot several brakes and the Weatherby Accubrake is one of the cheapest but does the job as well as any I have shot. Always use hearing protection, whether using a brake or straight rifle. All my personal rifles above .300 Winny are braked. I use plugs and cuffs at the bench, have my hearing tested yearly and have no ill effects after shooting 3000 plus rounds per year of braked and unbraked rifles for several years. Good shooting.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
The only one making any sense here is Robgunbuilder.Know, I would like to know which brand works best.

So you think that ‘Robgunbuilder’ is making sense? Let’s go over what he had to say.

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Muzzel Brakes flat out work. Period!

No one has said they don’t reduce recoil. What everyone is saying is muzzle brakes increase the level of the muzzle blast dramatically. Proven fact!

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In the field the noise of a rifle with or without a brake is insignificant.

While you may get so excited that you don’t notice the muzzle blast your ears will still regester the effects of that noise. Don’t take the word of anyone here, ask any Audiologist and see what they say!! It's your hearing that is at stake.

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Noise is only a problem at the range and frankly when I'm at the range I like the noise so that the AR15 people move away from me quickly.

Sorry, but it’s shooters with this type of attitude that have caused many private gun clubs to ban or severely limit the use of braked equipped firearms at their ranges. And you think that all this makes sense to you? Whatever. Lawdog

It's people with your kind of attitude that want to take guns away from us completely.

I now have several of the VA-Comp brakes. The first one was in a 416/300 RUM which is essentially a 416 Dakota but has the full length case. John Ricks talked me into that instead of the 416 Rem mag I wanted.

It does what it says, holds the muzzle down and you can see the bullet smack what ever is down range.

I let a friend fire it to try it out and standing about forty feet to the side and back a little (didn't have the ear muffs along) And it was difinitely quieter that the 223 he was sighting in.

That is at the side and at the back of the gun. I would guess that any ravens or magpies flying by with in 30 feet above those fout holes in the top that vent the chambers would not only lose their hearing but most likely their feathers as well.

I fired a new 458 Lott yesterday, put the barreled action in a real light stock that just happened to fit, couldn't wait for the bedding to cure on a proper stock no just had to touch it off. Kind of a different experience to be able to see those 500 grain bullets blow craters down range.

There's no "recovering from recoil" in the sense that you have to lower the gunbarrel back down from where it was pointing at the treetops so you can find your target again.

In fact, if you don't open it up and 'tune" it for neutral muzzle flip, it will push the muzzle down a little and show you more of the target.

None of the side blast and down blast throwing up dirt and dust and leaves like the regular brakes.

Wayne