What can be said about Zastava .375 H&H rifles are they on mauser actions and are they good rifles ??

Search "Interarms", "Charles Daly" and "Whitworth". They're all the same basic '98 clone out of ZASTAVA.

FN copy, well done for the most part but the latest incarnation (Chas Daly) had some finish issues at first. I hear the ones coming out now are better than the start-up runs.

I've got one in 458 Win, on a Daly action. The finish is not a custom gun finish but they clean up pretty well with a little effort. Mine had a feed problem with the 2nd cartrdge when I got it, with some direction from Jeffeoso and 15 minutes with a dremel tool it was fine.

Mine has several hundred full power loads through it with no problems. Can't comment on the barrels as mine was a bare action with a Douglas barrel added.

I have a Whitworth .375 H&H. It's a nice rifle!

I also have a whitwoth that I purchased in 1985 and it is a great rifle.

I think the new Daly 375 would make a nice rifle. Problem I see with them is no open sights.

I would look for one of the older Whitworths or even the basic Interarms MKX.

FYI;
If you are in the market, the Powderhorn in Columbia Missouri has a Whitworth in 375 H&H. Nice looking gun; the only "blemish" is an ill fitting recoil pad.

Are the new Charles Daly actions cast or forged?

Would a CD action be a good base to have a custom rifle built on?

Would it clean up well, surface ground, new bottom metal, wing safty, trigger, ect..
Allen

The Daly is forged. I have built several rifles on the Daly action. With a little work they will smooth up nicely.

However if I was going to the trouble of replacing the trigger, safety, bottom metal etc I would look for one of the older FNs. Sell off the parts you don't need.

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Originally posted by AllenBosely:
Are the new Charles Daly actions cast or forged?

Would a CD action be a good base to have a custom rifle built on?

Would it clean up well, surface ground, new bottom metal, wing safty, trigger, ect..
Allen

The Charles Dalys make a fine, functional rifle that works and can look good.

But not a high dollar custom; the name just doesn't hold any value. Besides, the cost of a better name mauser action (FN, Mauser Ogerndorf, BRNO or Husqvarna to name a few) action is a such a small part of a fine custom gun its worth the extra $100.

I have two Chas Dalys I'm going to make working rifles from on plastic stocks in the soon-to-be AR rounds but I'd hunt for another brand if I was spending the dough for nice wood and other bells & whisltes.

from a quality point of view they are POOR
Daniel

Remember that these .375 H&H length actions from Yugoslavia are opened up all forward, thus weakened in the lower locking lug abuttment area.

RIP,

When does that become an issue?

Regards,

Pete

Yes the Daly, MkX, Whitworth, FN, Browning and most every other normal length 98 action used for the 375 & 300 H&H were and are opened in the front.

Ok, Specifically what model do I look for?
I dont mind paying for a good action, actually 2 of the same model.

But I am TOTALLY confused as to the differnt brands and models. Some are good others "junk".

And good places to find one? I am used to going to the gunshop or a Midway type supplier and just buying something. So "hunting" for an action is a bit confusing also.

So, bottom line is.. can you knowledgeable folks
tell me a what brand or brands and models as in VZ 24 or such. And where do I start looking? What should I expect to pay?

Sorry for all the questions guys.Man I hate being the dummy! So speak sloowly and be specific please

Thanks Allen

I can have the gunsmith open up the actoin so I don't need it already opened.

Would a Withworth .458 action work? Or are the front rails already to open to work for a .300/375 H&H? Then it could opened up in back.
Allen

Well to be honest. If you are just going with a 300/375 H&H I would just go with one of the standard commercial 98 that have been opened in the front. I have never heard of one letting go. The Whitworth, one of the Brownings built on the FN action.

As to if the 458 action could be opened in the back and made to work I can't answer. I do know the cost of the project just jumped greatly.

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Originally posted by Pete E:
RIP,

When does that become an issue?

Regards,

Pete

Pete,
Just the facts.

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Just the facts.

RIP,

I'm not doubting you at all...just wondering what the implication of these facts are...

In my very limited experience, I've not heard these actions failing on things like .375H&H, but I've no idea if there's a problem on bigger kicking stuff...Just trying to learn a little more from all you more knowedgable guys!

regards,

Pete

I'm just a simple (hillbilly) country doctor who likes to plunk on this keyboard between seeing patients and quail hunting (Magda was really sticking them on point yesterday, BTW ).

Anyway, it seems to me that we are really in the golden age of gumaking and gunsmithing right now.

There are many fine actions available that are specifically engineered for various classes of cartridges. Yes, it has been proven time and again that a big cartridge can be shoe-horned into a medium sized action, but htat begs the question of why? If you use an action that has been engineered from the ground up for whatever cartridge you are going to use, life will be easier. There will be less magic and man-hours expended getting things to feed and function reliably.

Sure, you can get bragging rights from having a medium framed rifle feed a cigar sized cartridge, "just like they did in the old days, or in more modern days because they had to due to having to use what was available to the gunmaker/gunsmith.

Why not use the man hours that would go into action modifications to buy an appropriate sized action from the get-go?

A while back I was looking at putting together a .338 Lapua Magnum LR rifle on a Remington action. It can be done, but there is a whole lot of hoo-haw involved. Instead I will use an accurized CZ action off of a 416 Rigby. With a Krieger barrel and a good quality chambering/bedding job it will shoot just great, at less cost, and without any niggling thought about safety.

FWIW, YMMV, IMNSHO, btt, BLT, Chee' burger, Chee' burger, Cheeeps, no Pepsi, We got Coke!

lawndart

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Originally posted by lawndart:

FWIW, YMMV, IMNSHO, btt, BLT, Chee' burger, Chee' burger, Cheeeps, no Pepsi, We got Coke!

lawndart

Umm. Maybe you ought to cut down on the Coke intake for a while?

Pete,
I was waiting for lawndart to say it much better than I could, in his facile-funny way, gifted writer, comedian and fighter pilot that he is.

There is a member here who has ruined a .500 Jeffery built on a standard M98, IIRC. Lug set back. And he was just trying some modest loads from the Reloading Pages here. That may be an extreme example, but the rebated Jeffery rim is not so big as to cause wild bolt thrust problems.

Lawndart said it all in inimitable style.

BTW, lawndart, was that last line a variation of John Belushi's Saturday Night Live skit?

"Cheeburger-cheeburger-cheeburger, Pepsi-Pepsi-Pepsi, chips-chips-chips ..." to go, or something like that. And then there was the Samurai Chef ...

No Coke -- Pepsi!



Anyone who has eaten at the GM Steakhouse in Austin, Texas has had a similar experience, unless it has changed since the long-ago days when I was there. You could get a cheeseburger or a cheesburger without cheese. They told you what you were drinking and if you disagreed you had to tell them. I asked about it and they said it sped things up if people were not asked what they wanted to drink.

Yeah,
The first time I saw that skit on Saturday Night Live was on the TV in my infantry company recreation room at Ft. Bragg thirty years ago. Never could remember if they only had Pepsi or only had Coke.

As regards cocaine; I think it is simply God's way of letting people know they have too much money. That and Botswana lions.

lawndart

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Originally posted by lawndart:
Yeah,
The first time I saw that skit on Saturday Night Live was on the TV in my infantry company recreation room at Ft. Bragg thirty years ago. Never could remember if they only had Pepsi or only had Coke.

As regards cocaine; I think it is simply God's way of letting people know they have too much money. That and Botswana lions.

lawndart

Bro'dart,
It was Pepsi only.
Botswana lions AND lionesses make the hairs on my arms stand at attention when they are within 10 yards of me.

Got my .338 Lapua on a CZ 550 Mag (23" barrel) sighted in today. 200 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip at 3121 fps, 3" high at 100 yds. How far away does the deer have to be to minimize meat damage? Should I go for head shots inside of that range?

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How far away does the deer have to be to minimize meat damage?

Two zip codes.

Speaking of which, could you measure the internal dimensions of your magazine box for Gerard? Mine is at work tonight. He wants to get an idea about how far out to seat his new .338 uber geschossen in the Lapua.

LD

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Should I go for head shots inside of that range?

Use an X bullet and go for the Texas heart shot. Kill, clean and cape in one step.

lawndart,
Thanks for the field tips on meat processing.

Tell your friend that my CZ in .338 Lapua has a box that will accept a dummy round that is 3.836" COL. It functions well with that length, the cartridge slides up and down in the box without binding.

Since I just got this one sighted in for deer, I do not want to take the floor plate off and measure parts disassembled. It is at least 3.840" and looks more like 3.850" to my eyeball of that accurately measured dummy in the box.

The width measurements you don't have to worry about. It feeds slick with those pointy, tapered .338 Lapuas, and holds four down in the box, just like a Dakota 76 African. Go CZ!