Be serious here:

If you were going to buy a 375 caliber rifle from Ruger this year which one gets your money?

A. H&H
B. Hornady/Ruger

Rich
DRSS

One question: Is the new Hawkeye rifle available in any other caliber that .375 Ruger?

H&H

A if I was actually going to hunt dangerous game in the near future.
B just to have a new cartridge to experiment with. My dealer has one for $867.00 I just might be tempted to buy it!

Larry

Rich

Is you survey intended be only a rifle from Ruger can be chosen.Or is your intention a 375 Ruger Vs a 375 H&H in whatever rifles are available in 375 H&H.

Mike

Whitworth,
The Hawkeye comes in 14 calibers from .204 to .375.

Larry

SS,

yes!

Rich
DRSS

I wouldn't buy a Ruger, in chambering or rifle.

I would probably use that money to buy beer for the guys at the homeless shelter instead.

Next year about this time, once the 375 Ruger Hawkeye is well established, all the reactionaries will get to bash the new 416 Ruger... Makes great "forum fodder".

quote:

Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Be serious here:

If you were going to buy a 375 caliber rifle from Ruger this year which one gets your money?

A. H&H
B. Hornady/Ruger



Rich
DRSS

I like the natural slick feeding of the H&H.

Hard to improve on a 375 H&H.

Idaho Sharpshooter

You have made it hard by locking us into a Ruger rifle irrespective of calibre choice.

There is a reason the H+H is still the No1 universal do everything hunting calibre. Sometimes people get things right the first time. Other cartridges are designed to keep the marketing /manufacturing machine moving with a bit of novalty.

Mark

quote:

Originally posted by 500grains:
I would probably use that money to buy beer for the guys at the homeless shelter instead.

H&H
OZHUNTER

quote:

Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Be serious here:

If you were going to buy a 375 caliber rifle from Ruger this year which one gets your money?

A. H&H
B. Hornady/Ruger

Rich
DRSS

I've already made my choice, I purchased the "African" 375R. But, I already own an H&H Ruger.

GVA

375R

375 Ruger

The Hawkeye to me is a better all around hunting rifle IMO vs the Safari.

But, as I've stated before I will have one built. I'm just not a Ruger rifle fan.

In the field the Ruger will do everything the H&H will do plus a little extra.

In the Rifle magazine I just received. John Barsness states that the Ruger case capacity is approx 6% more than the H&H.

I had a CZ 375 H&H Safari Magnum rifle. It was just too cumbersome to lug around as an all around rifle that the cartridge truly is.

I sold it to get a 416 Rigby. Had Marc Stokeld transform it into a very nice rifle. Not little pinky finger extended nice. But an extremely functional, well balanced beautiful rifle.

When I replace the 375 in my line up. It will be with better general hunting rifle than the Safari magnums.

The actual difference between the H&H and Ruger is neglible to say the least. So why not put in a rifle you prefer.

Be it a magnum action or standard. Pick your poison. I sure as heck am not going to tell you what you like.

Just don't tell me what I like.

quote:

Originally posted by luv2safari:
Next year about this time, once the 375 Ruger Hawkeye is well established, all the reactionaries will get to bash the new 416 Ruger... Makes great "forum fodder".

As well they should!

If Ruger had any brains they wouldn't introduce a round to compete with a modern cartridge, they'd make a 404 version where the smaller size cartridge would only compete against the extra-extra long Jeffrey case.

.375 Ruger, and plan to. Although, my .395 Ruger should be finished before Ruger comes out with a Lefty .375Ruger. And I do have a .375H&H.

Since I am stuck here at the house waiting on Fed-Ex ( which I despise ) to bring a signature required package, and as you all know I am not shy about calling people, I decided to call an aquaintance at Ruger and hear their reasoning for birthing the 375R to begin with. The answers are really simple. I'll list them in no particular order.

A large caliber rifle capable of being taken hunting right out of the box.

The rifle having the following qualities ;
light weight
excellant open sights
left hand versions offered
spin-off calibers will be economicaly viable
standard length action

market research has indicated that most consumers who purchase the RSM or Magnum Rugers are concerned with the rifle being damaged and they are not as likely to use it on a day to day basis, reserving it for expensive hunts only. Ruger wants to provide a " working " rifle at a good price point.

The 375 was determined to be the upper end of recoil level that most hunters are willing to accept.

The idea of a totally new rifle concept had to make sense to shareholders as Ruger is publicly held.

I think Ruger has succeeded on all counts................JJ

quote:

Originally posted by JJ_Miller:
Since I am stuck here at the house waiting on Fed-Ex ( which I despise ) to bring a signature required package, and as you all know I am not shy about calling people, I decided to call an aquaintance at Ruger and hear their reasoning for birthing the 375R to begin with. The answers are really simple. I'll list them in no particular order.

A large caliber rifle capable of being taken hunting right out of the box.

The rifle having the following qualities ;
light weight
excellant open sights
left hand versions offered
spin-off calibers will be economicaly viable
standard length action

market research has indicated that most consumers who purchase the RSM or Magnum Rugers are concerned with the rifle being damaged and they are not as likely to use it on a day to day basis, reserving it for expensive hunts only. Ruger wants to provide a " working " rifle at a good price point.

The 375 was determined to be the upper end of recoil level that most hunters are willing to accept.

The idea of a totally new rifle concept had to make sense to shareholders as Ruger is publicly held.

I think Ruger has succeeded on all counts................JJ

Aye.

Anything more on this thread is simply going to be like a bunch of girls discussing what color to paint their nails. Nothing wrong with that though.

To the fellow who bought and sold the CZ550 in 375 H&H, I agree it's a failure compared to a mauser type in 375 H&H. The only things it has going for it are mag capacity(Holy Shit! a 6 shot 375 H&H!) or if someone is truly recoil sensitive or just a really big guy then the CZ550 works. I have one in 416 Rigby and it's good. Why CZ didn't build the 375 on a smaller action is beyond me. They'd sell the shit out of 'em! My 375 is an FN clone.

All Rugers are guns that I mostly give a pass to. Sometimes there is a model that gets my attention. The Hawkeye in 375R is one of them. The gun is VERY SMALL for me, feels like a 22, so not sure how it will handle while shooting again and again but carrying is a breeze. I HATE cast parts. I own an M1A and thats the exception. I wouldn't buy a DGR with a cast receiver. The Hawkeye African does not have the finish out, the feel of the big Ruger Safaris. I would consider the 375R in a nice mauser type.

JJ,


Showbart,
Exactly what I have been trying to say.

Already have 3 H&H's in the safe so if I crossed a path with a good deal on a 375R it most likely would have a new home. R.

I purchased my first 375 last year.
I got a CZ 550 Safari in 375 H&H.

Had I known that Ruger had this new 375 I might have changed my mind.

No animal will ever be able to tell the difference between the two, and I don't give the slightest wee bit of a damn about what any snob hunter thinks about my choice of gun or caliber.

375 Ruger, Hawkeye/African $875

375 H&H, Ruger RSM $1,850

Which 375 will be in my safe? H&H on a Rem 30S. It will go nicely with my Lott.

Keith

If they ever bring them to Canada, my choice will be the 375 Ruger, Hawkeye-African. It will be my "African Elk Rifle".

Cheers,
Canuck

I am buying one and it is the 375 Ruger.

quote:

Originally posted by Canuck:
If they ever bring them to Canada, my choice will be the 375 Ruger, Hawkeye-African. It will be my "African Elk Rifle".

Cheers,
Canuck

And it would make a dandy "African Sheep Rifle" too.

quote:

And it would make a dandy "African Sheep Rifle" too.

That it would!

Canuck

This is definitely a trick question.

I saw a Hawkeye 375R at Cabela's and I could swear I remember it being a nicer finish, polish blue & nicer wood and it was $879 or such. My dealer in town has one that is parkerized w/ plain wood and it's under $600 I think. The gun still feels unsubstantial for chambering.

Edited by me; As stated above "I thought" that Ruger was like $599. I was mistaken it is $799.

H&H

I have a 375 Ruger- did I buy it to outperform the 375 H&H? Nope, just to equal it in a rifle that a commoner such as myself can afford. We just don't have many options in a crf rifle any more that isn't custom, or doesn't cost twice as much (ruger rsm, used model 70). And a CZ 550 in 375 is a pretty burly package- more than I want to carry up and down a mountain.
I bought it because I'm convinced that it will be an excellent elk caliber, and will hammer any plains gane or cat in Africa that I will ever be able to hunt. Since I really don't care to outperform the 375 H&H, pressure isn't an issue. All I wanted was a potent and packable rifle- and I got exactly that when I picked the new ruger off the rack. A cz 550 is like swinging a club, and that is the only other rifle in its price class that I'm aware of.
I am definitely not knocking the H&H, and I don't really think any of the ruger fans are. I simply believe that the ruger is a package that a regular guy can afford. If somebody else made a 375 H&H that was even remotely affordable and built a little slimmer, I think the ruger might be in trouble. Time will tell, but I think it will do pretty well.
The only knock I can see so far is that you won't find ammo in every podunk shop around the world, or rattling around in your ph's truck. That may make it a challenge if you're seperated from your kit in some far away land, but I don't see it being a problem here in the states.
For the record- I have used and love the 375 H&H. I wanted one from the time I set foot back in the states, but never found the "right". If I hadn't seen that thing hit like the hammer of Thor, I would have just kept to it with my 338 winnie. The ruger just happent to be the first 375 cal that fit the bill.

Len Hawkins

I would stick to the proven 375 H&H and mine is a SAKO.
It did the job back then no reason why it can't do it now days.

I find it interesting that some here who have been blasting the "belt" (belted cases)for ions are now condeming the .375 Ruger.

Give them what they have been screaming for and they whine! Must be entitlement children?

None of the above.

I've never been desperate enough for a firearm to stoop to buying a Ruger.

H&H
Reasons: Readily available ammunition and brass, smooth feeding, inherent accuracy.