17 August 2001, 04:20
<Paleohunter>510 nitro express
I was looking through Cartiges of the world book and came across the 510 nitro express round and was wanting some feed back. I have a Ruger #1 in 458 sitting around and was wondering if this could be converted into the 510 N.E.very easy. Has anyone loaded this round? Who has reamers? Who would be a good smith for the barrel work. Thanks.
17 August 2001, 05:02
HolmesGreetings,
I am not familiar with the 510 Nitro. There was a 500 Nitro 3" and 3 1/4", (.510"). The longer case simply reduced pressure and yielded slightly less velocity. My preference is the 3" version. This cartridge was listed with a 570 grain projectile at 2150 fps. Velocities were taken from 28" barrels.
The Ruger #1 is a prime candidate for this classic round. Two firms doing this conversion that I am familiar with is Bowen Classic Arms at www.bowenclassicarms.com/ and SSK Industries at www.sskindustries.com/
Regards,
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~Holmes
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17 August 2001, 09:27
<Paleohunter>No the book calls it a 510 nitro express " the brain child of Bob Schneidmiller and custom gun maker D'arcy Echols." The artical talks about it being a 50-140 case with mordern bullets and smokless power.
17 August 2001, 12:07
OldsargeMm-mmm. Right at the bottom of page 197 and it recommends that the Ruger #1 would "be an excellent choice." Since there are quite a few .577 NE #1's floating about and the diameter of that is larger, I can't imagine that there would be any particular problem with the Ruger. However, since he essentially invented the round, I'd give D'Arcy a call. Which ever smith you decided on could rent the reamer from him.
17 August 2001, 14:35
Big BoreSounds like an easy conversion, but not so. The recoil studs in the No. 1 Rib are drilled so deep that the 458's barrel cannot be simply rebored to .510. You will have to have a new barrel. A friend of mine had one redone to 500 NE and loves it, but it did have to have a new barrel. Supposedly, if you have an older No. 1 in 458 they did not have the recoil stud holes drilled quite so deeply, but that is something your 'smith will have to determine.
18 August 2001, 06:32
JiriAnd what about this
http://www.billsaccuracy.com/nitro.htm . I know, it is only .450x31/4, but . . .
21 August 2001, 08:04
Holmesquote:
Originally posted by Paleohunter:
No the book calls it a 510 nitro express " the brain child of Bob Schneidmiller and custom gun maker D'arcy Echols." The artical talks about it being a 50-140 case with mordern bullets and smokless power.
Hmmm....seems I spend too much time with the old classics! The 510 NE is not one I have heard of until now. Sounds similar to J.D. Jones 50 x 3 1/4 x 750.
What velocity does this cartridge attain?
Regards,
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~Holmes
"Those who appease a tiger do so in the hope that the tiger will eat them last."
-Winston Churchill