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Which Long Range P-Dog Projectile for .458 Lott?
03 March 2011, 11:37
MinkmanWhich Long Range P-Dog Projectile for .458 Lott?
Been searching for info, data and bullets to load the Lott for 600 to 1200 hundred yards. Finally have a farm where I can shoot 3 to 4 miles if I could. There's hanging plates at various distances that are moved and tough to find at times. .338WM does pretty well, but someone must have the formula to make the Lott a Barrett wanta-be.
Thanks to all
03 March 2011, 19:54
Dave BushMinkman:
This really begs the question as to why someone would
even want to try and turn a LOTT into a long range rig? Maybe a caliber more appropriate to the task would be a better idea.
I think you need to have someone take your temperature. I think you have a fever.
Dave
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Krieghoff 500 NE
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"If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition).
03 March 2011, 20:00
a.tinkererThe challenge is the bullet, and Dave - I think he wants to have some fun with that rifle in an unconventional manner...
Perhaps your 450Rigby suggestion will get him a little more hoot!
Look at the discussion threads on 350gr bullets in the WM and the Lott, we're getting 2700-2800fpsMV with the 350gr Barnes TSX
I think it might be possible to get a bullet with a better BC, and you'll need good launch speed to get the 600+ yard job done.
Cheers
Tinker
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03 March 2011, 22:57
cgbachSounds like fun(?) to me. I would go to heavy cast bullets (save some $$) and slow them down to .45-120 velocities. Range them and dial it in. You might find that even a 30' base wouldn't give you enough scope adjustment though. Get a scope with dots and hold over?
C.G.B.
04 March 2011, 08:37
MinkmanThanks guys, I thought someone who was using the lighter boat tails would throw in. I feel great, temp is normal for me 97.8, heart rate 58, BP 108/68, any better and I'd take a nap. I could always swith barrels for a .338 Extrema, .416 Cheytac, .218/.458 Hyper Bee, or such, but I just want to have sniper fun with my Lott, BSA 8x24 milrad scope. That's all. Thanks again guys
04 March 2011, 10:12
a.tinkererWhat light boat tail bullets are there for the .458 rifles?
Cheers
Tinker
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05 March 2011, 01:41
MinkmanI once saw there were 19 different projectiles for the .458 SOCOM and yet I can only find a few. Barnes has three, two of which are boat tails: a 300 gr TAC-TX and a 300 gr Triple Shock. Both of which aren't in their website product list anymore. Search continues. Thanks
05 March 2011, 17:34
tiggertateI'm not sure you gain anything below 300 grains for long range, just because the BC gets so poor. So poor the boat tail becomes secondary. Ditto for the 325 gr Leverlution from Hornady. I think cgbach is on the right track for accuracy. None of the black powder long range match shooters go light...just the opposite.
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05 March 2011, 18:20
Rick RHow about using an sabot with a .338 or .308 BtHP Match bullet?
05 March 2011, 20:03
a.tinkererSabot for .458" that will take high velocities?
Who makes this sabot, and what velocities will it take?
Cheers
Tinker
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05 March 2011, 20:53
K20350500 gn Barnes Banded
06 March 2011, 10:51
Rick Rquote:
Originally posted by a.tinkerer:
Sabot for .458" that will take high velocities?
Who makes this sabot, and what velocities will it take?
Cheers
Tinker
I don't know if there's commercial source. I read an article many years ago where the author bought some plastic stock and turned his own sabots on a lathe.
If OP wanted to do it the easy way he'd just go buy a decent .22-250. If he wants the "gee look what I done" effect he needs a good machine shop...
06 March 2011, 17:10
GusteauxDon't remember where I read it and can't vouch for its validity, but the story goes...
A couple of P'dog hunters were working a group/area of P'dogs with their small bore long range wonders. Over time the dogs were getting smart and after the first shot they would only put their ears up out of the holes. Lots of shoot'n, not a lot of hit'n.
One guy had a big bore something and loaded it with 500gr somethings and tried using it. Once he found the "ears" his aim point was a few inched below, in the dirt. Claimed the top half of the dogs were being popped out nicely and flying a fair distance.
08 March 2011, 04:03
gohip2000quote:
Originally posted by m3taco:
Don't remember where I read it and can't vouch for its validity, but the story goes...
A couple of P'dog hunters were working a group/area of P'dogs with their small bore long range wonders. Over time the dogs were getting smart and after the first shot they would only put their ears up out of the holes. Lots of shoot'n, not a lot of hit'n.
One guy had a big bore something and loaded it with 500gr somethings and tried using it. Once he found the "ears" his aim point was a few inched below, in the dirt. Claimed the top half of the dogs were being popped out nicely and flying a fair distance.
I can see the lott being a bunker buster for prairie dogs
12 March 2011, 06:47
MinkmanOkay, okay, is everyone agreeing on the 500gr as the "1"? Next, how are the flight characteristics of flat nose solids for "Phunt Brainers"?
Thanks to all for the interest
12 March 2011, 09:37
Hog KillerPrairie dogs in NJ, that is a problem I have not heard about.
Keith
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12 March 2011, 10:09
Antelope Sniperquote:
Prairie dogs in NJ, that is a problem I have not heard about.
Keith, they are Zombie Prairie dogs. It has something to do with all the chemical plants. That's why he need the Lott for them.
12 March 2011, 12:22
BigFiveJackAs a side note it turns out that Minkman and I
live no more than 5 miles from one another. It
truly is a small world...
Jack
OH GOD! {Seriously, we need the help.}
19 March 2011, 08:58
86thecatDoesn't GS make a .458 with high BC?
21 March 2011, 22:32
BigFiveJackBelow are the G S Custom links
that I believe are relative:
http://www.gsgroup.co.za/spupgrade.htmlhttp://www.gsgroup.co.za/sp.html
Jack
OH GOD! {Seriously, we need the help.}
23 March 2011, 00:14
Tyler KempI would favor a heavy Barnes, although you're gonna be launching more cents than BC downrange
Love shooting precision and long range. Big bores too!
Recent college grad, started a company called MK Machining where I'm developing a bullpup rifle chassis system.
23 March 2011, 04:51
GeorgeScontact
Northern Precision Bullets
329 S. James St.
Carthage, NY 13619
(315)493-1711
they used to offer a large variety of big-bore bullets for unconventional uses,
George
