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375 Belgian Browning?
12 April 2015, 01:46
Big Wonderful Wyoming375 Belgian Browning?
What would keep you from buying a 375 in a Belgian Browning rifle?
12 April 2015, 02:01
GrenadierSalt wood - Safari, Medallion, and Olympian grade rifles should be suspect if manufactured between 1967 and 1976
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12 April 2015, 02:10
ramrod340quote:
Salt wood
About only thing I can think off. Easy to check. If it was going to show it would have already.
As usual just my $.02
Paul K
Yes if it's going to happen it already has ! Just take the barrel/receiver out of the stock and inspect .
12 April 2015, 03:39
Big Wonderful WyomingToo late, someone beat me too it.
12 April 2015, 03:50
GerardWhile you are having a good look at the rifle, measure the twist rate.
Older Browning rifles had a 1:14" twist and did not do as well as .375" rifles with a 1:12" twist.
Added:
I hope he has good results with it. There is always a reason why a live person sells a rifle.
12 April 2015, 04:50
scutulatus
This one spent 15 years in Africa with a PH as a loner for clients that did not have a med/heavy rifle. 3 Ele, dozen or so buff and "enough plains game, camp meat and bait to fill a few circus" Still at work here in AZ
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9.3X74r Johann Springer
Why is a 1:14 a problem ?
The twist on the new Ruger 375 is 1:14 and it will comfortably stabilize a 300 gr 375 bullet at the velocities required from that caliber.
According to the Miller twist rule a 375 300 gr fired from a 375 with a 1:14 twist will have a SF of 1.5 at muzzle and that is stable in any book, downrange it only gets better
12 April 2015, 05:24
Gerardquote:
Alf: Why is a 1:14 a problem ?
The twist on the new Ruger 375 is 1:14
http://www.ruger.com/products/...pecSheets/37186.htmlThere is a reason why a 375 Ruger or H&H is usually built on a 12" twist.
12 April 2015, 07:46
Palladin8I was getting ready to say that i'm pretty sure my 375 Ruger is 1:12"
excuse my ignorance, but what is salt wood?
12 April 2015, 08:24
Big Wonderful Wyomingquote:
Originally posted by eny:
excuse my ignorance, but what is salt wood?
Wood cured in a salt bath (like Country Ham or Spanish Jamon de Iberico) to dry it out.
Causes metal problems.
12 April 2015, 09:30
kaprotaDoes anyone know what size of actions the Safari Brownings where built on? I am thinking they had to be modified to accept the H&H length cartridge. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Also - I thought the stocks where cured in a salt mine not a salt bath --
Here again please correct me if i am off course.
12 April 2015, 10:11
Big Wonderful WyomingThink bathtub full of dry salt. Not a mixture of salt and water.
12 April 2015, 13:19
igorrockquote:
Does anyone know what size of actions the Safari Brownings where built on? I am thinking they had to be modified to accept the H&H length cartridge.
SAKO used to have FN made normal lenght Civil m98 action in their High Power .300 H&H and .375 H&H models. I have one such action in my rifle; it has opened so long that it would accept 91,44 mm long ammo which is CIP- standard lenght for these ammos.
12 April 2015, 20:40
eezridrI have a couple of them. 243 and a 458WM.
I carry the 243 all the time as a Texas deer rifle. Never needed anything more with 95 gr NP's
I cannot think or a better DG African carry rifle in a 458. Very light for the caliber, 3 position safety, control feed, and extremely accurate.
Like you, I always was always looking for a good 375 but they brought a real premium.
Another issue is that most are 13.5 LOP's which is a bit short for me.
Super guns for the money!
EZ
Back in those days there was a shortage of wood for stocks .To get more you could speed things up by packing the wood in salt .It's hydroscopic so the salt sucks out the water ---However some of the salt gets into and stays in the wood !!
The only question I have is does it taste anything like Jamon ? I mean at least for emergencies !
Here in NY a gun company was developing a system like a microwave to dry the stocks . NYS backed out of the program so that's where it ended . You can for small pieces use your microwave oven but check for the details first otherwise the wood is destroyed.
13 April 2015, 02:40
Big Wonderful WyomingLike Jamon Iberico it would have to be sliced very thin.
quote:
Originally posted by mete:
Back in those days there was a shortage of wood for stocks .To get more you could speed things up by packing the wood in salt .It's hydroscopic so the salt sucks out the water ---However some of the salt gets into and stays in the wood !!
The only question I have is does it taste anything like Jamon ? I mean at least for emergencies !
Here in NY a gun company was developing a system like a microwave to dry the stocks . NYS backed out of the program so that's where it ended . You can for small pieces use your microwave oven but check for the details first otherwise the wood is destroyed.
thanks for the info guys
13 April 2015, 21:12
PSmithLast year I found an unfired .375 H&H made in 1965. It is a beautifully made rifle. It cost way too much, but I'm glad I have it.
Paul Smith
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I had the privilege to fire E. Hemingway's WR .577NE, E. Keith's WR .470NE, & F. Jamieson's WJJ .500 Jeffery
I strongly recommend avoidance of "The Zambezi Safari & Travel Co., Ltd." and "Pisces Sportfishing-Cabo San Lucas"
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JJS has a pair of Browning Safaris, 375 and 458 for sale in the gun classifieds. Knowing the owner these guns are gunsmithed properly to perform. I wouldn't mind the 458 for myself.
14 April 2015, 00:09
LawdogA
little research will reveal the serial numbers of salt wood Brownings. I have two .338 WM Medallion and .375 H&H Safari
Grade. I may sell them when I can't hunt any longer but will probably keep them around to admire.
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