Re: Why??

23 October 2004, 12:28

JefferyDenmark

Re: Why??

AC

Quote:

I am curious as to why those that have true big bore rifles, bore of 0.475" and larger, do not hunt with these rifles, but instead chose smaller bores (0.375" through 0.423").

Some do not.
You will never catch Mark Sulllivan with a small bore if the mighty .600NE is within reach. Or his new .700 NE.

In europe it is not considered as good style to show up for a roe buck hunt with a big bore >9,3x62.
I do not know about America ? you guys have some strange hunters - semi auto and .50 BMG etc.

Cheers,

Andrï¿½

22 October 2004, 06:30

MacD37

Quote:

There are several posters here with true big bores ie caliber .475 or larger. My question, why do all of you seem to hunt with lesser calibers, like .375 through .423 (medium bores)?

ASS_CLOWN

AC , this is only a personal opinion, but I think anything larger than a 500NE double is wasted powder, and energy to carry the rifle. Considering the extra weight, and recoil, and the very slight gain in efectiveness of larger than 500 cal, they simply do not make sense today!

None of the above henders those who want to own, and hunt with a 700NE double, but IMO, the value is in the "LOOK AT ME" factor, more than need! I have owned the big boys, (up to 577NE 3") but rarely used it anyplce other than the fireing range. It was simply too damn heavy, and did nothing better that my 500/450NE, and even the little 375FL is a better choice for close in fast action! In a close encounter, only a brain, or spine shot will finish things, and a 300 gr solid, at 2450 fps,on a buff,or a good soft point on a lion from a 375FL will do that as well as anything shot from the shoulder. It's light weight, will allow a second shot faster than any of the heavies, after recovering from recoil, and the lighter rifle is easier to move about quickly! As someone else said above, the lighter chamberings are simply eaiser to shoot accurately! Those old 2, and 4 bores were needed when they were the latest thing, but with modern powders, and most especially, the fine bullets we have today, the big boys are not needed, though they are available to those who have the need to show off a little, for the guys down at the old shootin stump!

23 October 2004, 15:35

kbobb

470?...500? Gimme a break.
I hunt little whitetails with a 75 caliber and I measure projectile weight in ounces! I've got a double for this as well as a pump. Oh, most people call them 12 gauge rifled slugs. Man, they flatten a 100 pound whitetail.

23 October 2004, 18:35

RIP

JefferyDenmark,
Yes we do have some odd hunters here in the USA. Consider AC, for example, who claims to be a hunter ... I think he goes fishing more often, like this trolling here.

Somehow, he got off my ignore list ...

I have hunted with the 500 A2. I carried it with iron sights only for a week in Alaska, on a brown bear hunt, backing up a buddy, 10.75 pounds, 570 grains at 2450 fps (Barnes XLC's and GSC FN's). My friend did not get a brown bear, but we were just two white guys hunting like natives. I did bust some commercial fishing net floats and driftwood on the beach with it, and took an offhand shot at a black bear 200 yards up a 45 degree slope, when back on the mainland before flying out ... I saw the dirt fly just inches above the back of the bear, but the windage was good, I just didn't allow for elevation hold-under on such a steep uphill shot ... I think I grazed black bear hair with the bullet.

I used to hunt more with the big bores, but now even I think it is funny ... and fun. If I hadn't wanted to test the North Fork .423, I would have used a .470 NE Merkel on the recent bison.

I have bowled over moose and blasted marmots to smithereen's with a .458 Win Mag, long ago. I would love to take the 500 A2 after elephant and whatnot ... so many critters, so many guns, so little time and money!!!

Scotty is just trying to stir the pot, to belittle the hardiness of those who shoot the light recoiling .375's, .416's and .404's, the true hunters' bores. Bigger bores are backup "stoppers," sure, but we are all dreamers, and paper punchers too.

The 500 A2 can be loaded with 750 grain target bullets (with ballistic coefficient of over 1.000) at 2150-2250 fps, equipped with a screw on muzzle brake and mildot scope, and bipod. Then one can shoot paper and varmints out to 1000 yards, with about 80% of the whack and whump of a 50 BMG, all in a portable rifle less than half the weight of the BMG. That is fun.

23 October 2004, 11:42

ASS_CLOWN

MacD37,

You have the correct interpretation of my original question. Upon rereading it I can see how someone may misunderstand my meaning.

I am curious as to why those that have true big bore rifles, bore of 0.475" and larger, do not hunt with these rifles, but instead chose smaller bores (0.375" through 0.423").

ASS_CLOWN

22 October 2004, 16:42

interboat

ASSHOLE or whatever you name is,

Some advice: You would get a lot more responses to your silly questions if you would change your name/handle to one that doesn't make everyone want to kick you in the ass/face every time they see it.