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If anybody over at Ruger is listening...
22 September 2005, 04:13
akalininIf anybody over at Ruger is listening...
A double rifle based on a widened No.1 action.
Make it in some common calibers, and make it affordable. You could call it the 'No.2'
I get the first one in 458 Lott, thank you very much (hey, it was my idea!)
-Al
22 September 2005, 05:46
bwanajcjWhat about a double based on the gold label or some variant of it, around 4000$ and in 470 NE. i'd buy one maybe two!! jj
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22 September 2005, 06:07
fredj338They already make a good shotgun, just make a set of bbls. for it. i would certainly be interested in a $5K-$6 double in .450NE.
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22 September 2005, 06:12
Willfred,
You have the better idea, a 450 NE so there are 458 bullets for it.
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22 September 2005, 07:23
475GuyKeep dreaming, brother, never happen. When Bill Ruger was alive, he was contemplating a SXS DR to come along the heels of the RSM's. Now that he's gone to the great beyond, his people are letting stuff slip.
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22 September 2005, 11:15
Bill/OregonYes. A while back several of us resolved to pester Ruger to chamber the No. 1 Tropical in .470. Got some nice lip service and that was that. Wish they'd do the No. 1 in 9.3X74R, as well, but I doubt it.
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22 September 2005, 22:04
degoinsdern!! I was just trying to work out in my head how a Ruger double falling block would need to be set up the other day. Glad I'm not the only one.
DRSS
22 September 2005, 23:36
SteveI spoke with a Ruger rep at an SCI convention a while back. They had some gold labels there and I asked about their offering double rifles on them. He told me that it was very unlikely due to the expense and margins on the limited market.
FWIW,
-Steve
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23 September 2005, 00:09
AtkinsonTwo no. 1s side by side? Sorry old buddy but you have lost it!

That would be the worlds most ugly rifle and would handle like a stump from an oak tree....A double needs to break open, and shotgun actions do not work either...
A double for under $4000 is impossible unless a new method of regulation is discovered with the use of computers, and that is possible I suppose but has not yet been perfected as I understand it...
In the meantime just keep dreaming, and stay away from POS doubles, they simply don't work.
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
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23 September 2005, 00:11
Charles_Helmquote:
A double needs to break open...
My feelings exactly.

25 September 2005, 06:42
pachydermI have also been hoping for a #1 in 470.
25 September 2005, 09:39
GadgeSomething like this [falling block double] has been done in the past, but apparently didn't catch on!

See
this dealer page, 4th gun down.
25 September 2005, 10:24
mehulkamdarMartini and Hagn made a 7x57R double on their dropping block action which was neither ugly nor heavy. A member at the Nitroexpress forums mailed me the review from Double Gun Journal and the rifle does look a work of art like all of the Martini and Hagn guns. And it weighed 6 3/4 pounds.
Good hunting!
Mehul Kamdar
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26 September 2005, 01:05
<JOHAN>Mehul
The double Martini Hagn built was a master piece.... falling block double would me much stronger than conventional break top design.....
Only thing I don't like about the M&H falling block double is the price

Cheers
/JOHAN
26 September 2005, 01:23
akalininquote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
Two no. 1s side by side? Sorry old buddy but you have lost it!

That would be the worlds most ugly rifle and would handle like a stump from an oak tree....A double needs to break open, and shotgun actions do not work either...
A double for under $4000 is impossible unless a new method of regulation is discovered with the use of computers, and that is possible I suppose but has not yet been perfected as I understand it...
In the meantime just keep dreaming, and stay away from POS doubles, they simply don't work.
I disagree. I've seen pictures of old falling block doubles. They seem neither ugly, nor unwieldly to handle. Done right, they could be the same work of art a No. 1 is, and have a far more substantial action. See the pictures referenced above. Not a bad looking rifle, IMHO. Just imagine one with updated enginering & modern materials. The No.2!
-Albert
26 September 2005, 04:39
BiggestGunDon't get your hopes up. It's been 5 years and counting on their SXS shotgun. None of us would live long enough to actually see a double rifle. There's not going to be a cheap way to buy a good double. Good shooting!
Marshall Jones
26 September 2005, 07:47
JALSo I'm looking at an ad. in an Aust.mag. shows a Beretta 689 Silver Sable 11, Cal. 9.3x74R.
Doesen't state a price (which is usually bad news,) & takes a scope if need be.
Only thing is it's an under/over. That shouldn't be a problem should it??
John L.
26 September 2005, 09:16
AtkinsonSome have missed the point...A falling block single shot is a wonderful rifle, but when you melt to of them together to get a double rifle and have two leavers, you have gone over the top, that does not even make since, it would be a total disaster at the market place..
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
26 September 2005, 18:22
MikelravyI expect that Bill Ruger gave consideration to making a double rifle and decided against it. And probably for some good reasons.