The Accurate Reloading Forums
inchester M70 one piece bottom metal
05 January 2015, 01:21
gunslinger55inchester M70 one piece bottom metal
Will post this in Gunsmithing too. I just bought a McMillan express stock for my stainless M70 .375 Classic. It has 2 piece bottom metal. The McMillan takes one piece.
At Pacific tool and guage they have an obendorf aluminum or stainless. Are the PTAG ones any good?
Can you make 2 piece work on a one piece inlet stock?
What is the best stainless/silver one to get?
Anyone got one for sale?

Thanks
White Mountains Arizona
05 January 2015, 02:48
ramrod340quote:
Can you make 2 piece work on a one piece inlet stock?
I've purchased a wooden M70 stock and they simply add a plastic insert for the 1 piece. So you might be able to do the reverse and simply enlarge the inletting.
As usual just my $.02
Paul K
05 January 2015, 02:53
Live OakHere is another idea.
http://www.williamsfirearms.com/05 January 2015, 03:44
Sid-If you have the stock I'm thinking about it was designed for the Sunnyhill bottom metal. It becomes a 4 round magazine capacity with that piece. They will set you back more than $500....ouch.
I second the William's bottom metal but would also get their magazine box because that stock has a deeper drop. Very nice stock and has that guppy belly DGR look. I have also considered one for my Winchester 416 Rem but have too many projects going at once. I would definitely ditch that two piece bottom metal.
05 January 2015, 06:32
gunslinger55The express takes the standard box the safari takes the sunny hill.
Williams that's right thanks.
Also looking at fitting the 2 piece into the McMillan stock by modification
White Mountains Arizona
05 January 2015, 19:17
Sid-Yeah I guess it was the safari I was looking at. Really good looking stock.
If you modify the inletting on that stock then you will have trouble selling it in the future that way. At the very least I would order the Winchester original one piece from Brownel's or Midway USA for aound $100. One of the problems larger calibers have is the floorplate opening while shooting and dumping your ammo at your feet. A quality one piece can eliminate that problem whereas a 2 piece doesn't always line up correctly when assembled.
06 January 2015, 04:09
gunslinger55Good point
quote:
Originally posted by Sid-:
Yeah I guess it was the safari I was looking at. Really good looking stock.
If you modify the inletting on that stock then you will have trouble selling it in the future that way. At the very least I would order the Winchester original one piece from Brownel's or Midway USA for aound $100. One of the problems larger calibers have is the floorplate opening while shooting and dumping your ammo at your feet. A quality one piece can eliminate that problem whereas a 2 piece doesn't always line up correctly when assembled.
White Mountains Arizona
06 January 2015, 04:17
gunslinger55I got the stock. Pretty nice look with the stainless. We "can" modify it for the two piece not too difficult. But I think I'll buy a takeoff winchester
White Mountains Arizona
06 January 2015, 14:43
416RigbyHunterI have the PT&G stainless on all of my rifles, they were all original 'Classics' with the 2 piece bottom metal, the conversion wasn't difficult and the quality of the PT&G is excellent, highly recommend them.
Have their bottom metal (stainless) on my Rem 700's too.
Cheers.

06 January 2015, 18:33
Chuck Nelsonquote:
Originally posted by ramrod340:
quote:
Can you make 2 piece work on a one piece inlet stock?
I've purchased a wooden M70 stock and they simply add a plastic insert for the 1 piece. So you might be able to do the reverse and simply enlarge the inletting.
That is completely bass ackwards.
06 January 2015, 18:38
gunslinger55OK instead of half assing it going one piece.
Hopefully there is a market for my 2 piece bottom it is really good quality. Hated not using it but hey it's only money
White Mountains Arizona
06 January 2015, 20:08
ramrod340quote:
That is completely bass ackwards.
You are probably 100% correct. I bought it to use as a pattern for someone and they walked on me. So I set it up but never cut from it. It would appear I know just enough about the 1 & 2 piece difference to get me into trouble.
So after

I'm going down and lay it out next to a known 2 piece pattern and do my learning for the day.
After

Went downstairs pulled the stock with the insert laid it next to a 2 piece pattern and then stood there for a few minutes trying to figure out "WHAT THE HECK WAS I THINKING"
Thanks Chuck for helping me "un bass ackwards" my thinking.

I owe you one.
As usual just my $.02
Paul K
06 January 2015, 23:54
gunslinger55FYI I went over the whole process with my gunsmith pal who works almost exclusively with McMillan stocks. It is not a tough job to fill and re inlet for the 2 piece. I just figured not to do that for various reasons stated and the "why half ass it" excuse. We laid it all together and it would turn out fine. He even has McMillan colored epoxy. $60 is what he would charge. So it is a viable option
White Mountains Arizona
13 January 2015, 00:59
gunslinger55Dismayed that my rifle gained 2 1/2 lbs with the addition of the McMillan stock and bedded. I did not think they weighed that much. Was hoping for a fairly lightweight gun to hump the Talkeetnas but it should be a good shooter when ready to go. Was 8 1/2 lbs with scope sling and 3 rounds with factory plastic stock. Now 11 lbs. That's getting up there
White Mountains Arizona
13 January 2015, 08:45
OngweThat sucks!
McMillan must of used their "magnum fill" which they recommend for anything over 300 or 338 magnum level of recoil.
Eleven pounds is too heavy for a 375...IMHO.
14 January 2015, 08:53
gunslinger55I agree. I will ask and find out. A little disappointed after spending all that to get it done
White Mountains Arizona