375 H&H VS. 375 H&H Magnum

22 September 2001, 09:56

I was looking at reamer rentals - www.reamerrentals.com - and they have listings for a 375 H&H and a 375 H&H Magnum.

Needless to say I am confused about this, can anyone tell me what the difference is?

22 September 2001, 11:55

Canuck

If it isn't just a typo on their list, I would guess that they are referring to the .375 H&H Flanged, which is simple a rimmed version of the standard "ouch&ouch" that was designed for use in double rifles.

Canuck

22 September 2001, 14:33

Mark

No it didn't look like a typo, that is why I was wondering..

Gee, I suppose I could send them an email, boy am I smart tonite!

22 September 2001, 19:54

Saad

It may be a 400/375 H&H. It is also a belted case.

22 September 2001, 20:27

<Sooner>

One of them is most likely the "improved" version.

24 September 2001, 19:41

DB Bill

Ask them and let us know.

25 September 2001, 04:21

<William E. Tibbe>

Mark:

The nomenclature .375 H&H is a non description. It doesn't mean anything. There is no cartridge of that decription that is recognized.

However, there is a .375 H&H improved which is the .375 H&H magnum case with the shoulder moved forward. The .375 H&H magnum case capacity is 96.37 water grains while the .375 H&H improved holds 104.77.

There are numerous other .375's however each has it's own nomenclature. The Flanged would carry an ( R ) suffix meaning rim or flange.

The .375 Belted rimless magnum is one and that same .375 H&H magnum. There were only a pair of .375 H&H's brought out by Holland & Holland, one rimless with belt and the other with rim or flange but without a belt.

Kendall

25 September 2001, 19:36

Karl

Very imformative however I believe the use of the decimal point before the calibre name similarly renders it a non existant designation.
A 338 win mag for example is a .338 calibre but not a .338 win mag.
Very common mistake though

Karl.

26 September 2001, 01:38

<William E. Tibbe>

True, not true and maybe!

There is surely nothing more inconsistent, silly, incongrous, misleading and dubious than the various designations that are supposed to indicate, to the gun enthusiast, a guns caliber and cartridge type.

Kendall

26 September 2001, 01:47

Fritz Kraut

quote:
Originally posted by Shikaree:
It may be a 400/375 H&H. It is also a belted case.

Perhaps Shikaree is right. H&H patented the Belted Magnum cartridge in 1906, and that was evidently the 400/375 H&H. The .375 H&H Mag came in 1912. The 400/375 H&H had standard case length. That would be an interesting project: remaking the first H&H model from 1906...

Fritz