RIP is responsible for this thread

A couple for me would be:

Weatherby Crown Custom in 404 Jeffery

H&H or Purdey bolt action in 30/378 Wby

Anything in 376 Steyr

Winchester's top level Custom African rifle in 416 Remington instead of 375 H&H.

Fully customised Rem 700 as African style rifle in 375 H&H.

I might just add that RIP has a Wby Mark V barreled action fitted to a CZ stock. That is really bad

Mike

Crrown grade Weatherby in any caliber

Actually, Mike that was a CZ 550 rechambered to .378 Wby that is going into a Weatherby Custom Shop Mark V stock. But the other way around sounds pretty Bad too.

Some of my picks:

1. .450 Marlin in any firearm, especially a muzzle-ported Marlin Guide Gun.

2. Any Blaser in any caliber.

3. Savage 110 in .308 Warbird or .458 Win Mag chambering.

I have more ideas.
For now, we are sticking with The Bad.
"The Good The Bad And The Ugly" rifle trios could also be done.

44 mag in a rifle
450 marlin
come to mind

More Bad:
Any SxS double rifle

Browning A-Bolts in any caliber or configuration.

AD

Any Weatherby made Rifle in any caliber or configuration. i.e Pimp Gun!-Rob

Holland & Holland Royal SxS sidelock in 460 Weatherby Magnum.

1903 Springfield rebarreled to 8 x 57 Mauser.

A double rifle in a rimless or belted chambering, or 45-70(the almost a useful but not quite chambering).

A bolt rifle in a NE chambering.

A mauser 98 action in a short mag or ultramag chambering.

A Rem 700 in anything larger than a 300 win mag.

Anything Weatherby, though I will add the caveat the one achievement of Weatherby was belting the 416 Rigby case, to provide a readily available large case to be used for 50 and 55 calibers.

The AR series rifles in anything over 30 cal.

400 whelens and their derivatives in any rifle.

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Originally posted by RIP:
More Bad:
Any SxS double rifle

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Oops, I got cut off on that one, meant to finish with:

Any SxS double rifle chambered for a belted/rimless cartridge (500groans covered this with the .460 Wby H&H Royal).

Even Badder: Any OU double rifle chambered for a belted/rimless cartridge (like my Ruger Redlabel .338WinMag/20 guage combo).

Baddest double rifle: $150,000 monobloc barreled SxS .577 T-rex that shoots 25 cm groups at 25 meters and weighs 25 pounds.

Gotta agree with most of the picks above,
especially Allen's and Paul's.

The 338/06 in the Weatherby rifle. For some obsure reason that rifle/calibre combination did not last long

Any caliber in a Savage 110 is rediculous, a 458 is beyond that.

Mike 375

I think the Ruger 77 MkII in .338-06 however would be an instant hit in elk country, and I think they'd sell some in 9.3x62 as well. The Weatherby in a non-Weatherby caliber is just not right.

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Originally posted by Mike375:
The 338/06 in the Weatherby rifle. For some obsure reason that rifle/calibre combination did not last long

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Mike, I almost bought one of those in the Ultra Lightweight Mark V. Fortunately I came to my senses. And now, several years later, it is still sitting in the same store rack where I first saw it. They have the dies for it too. They want about $900 for it, and I am sure would take less. 6.5 pounds weight?

340 Weatherby with a muzzle brake!

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Originally posted by Mikelravy:
Any caliber in a Savage 110 is rediculous, a 458 is beyond that.

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Right! It is BAD!

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Originally posted by BigBullet:
340 Weatherby with a muzzle brake!

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Any rifle with a muzzle brake is BAD!

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Originally posted by jstevens:
Mike 375

I think the Ruger 77 MkII in .338-06 however would be an instant hit in elk country, and I think they'd sell some in 9.3x62 as well. The Weatherby in a non-Weatherby caliber is just not right.

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Definitely agree.

Weatherby also had that Norma loaded 338/06 ammo at some ridiculous price.

Although I often wonder just much interest there is in these type of calibres (including the 35 Whelen) when you get away from the forums

I suspect one of the problems for the 338/06 and 35 Whelen is that they would be low number sellers like a 375 H&H but the market for then will not bear the heavier oricing for cases/ammo and rifles that the 375 will bear.

Also, from a rifle makers point of view I am thinking that most 338/06s and 35 Whelens are rebarreled 270s or 30/06s and the 30/06 shooter who rebarrels to 338/06 necks up his existing 30/06 cases.

I aslo wonder if obvious mis matches like Weaterby and 338/06 are done on the basis that it might work but if it does not work then Wby collectors will buy enough to cover set up costs.

Mike

Anything that is not in a CRF that has to feed the first time without thinking about it. Double rifles are good. You might get two chances.

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BAD: Any lever action with a scope.

Most of the above plus....

The 94 Winchester in .410 (2 1/2" only no less!)

A Weatherby chambered in 300 Win Mag

Ruger Mini-14 in .222 (great caliber, wrong rifle).

9mm Revolvers


All of the above are about as useful as leather seats in a Dodge Neon

CZ rifles in American calibers, or other calibers

None, All are usefull for something even if they're used for pounding in tent stakes or as a leather punch.

There are a bunch that I would never buy, but if anyone gave me anything I wouldn't bitch about it.

The most amusing combination is-

American gunowners with British calibres and tastes.

Nothing funnier than seeing Americans who hate weatherbies and talk about the jolly proper rifles to own old boy, what

Karl.

Karl, that's a funny tendancy some of us yanks have, alright!

Right now, glossy Weatherby-style stuff is pretty much "out", and British stuff is sort of "in" over here.

Personally, my tastes are still back in the 1960s with Jack O'Connor...........

AD

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Originally posted by Karl:
The most amusing combination is-

American gunowners with British calibres and tastes.

Nothing funnier than seeing Americans who hate weatherbies and talk about the jolly proper rifles to own old boy, what

Karl.

Heh heh, is that bad or just funny!
My tastes are mostly German and American. German-American. Is that bad, or just funny?

Really, nothing wrong with a Weatherby in a non-DGR configuration.
And truly, I like some Weatherby cartridges in a CRF DGR.
I'm BAD.

Any bolt action rifle that is not a true Mauser with self-locking extractor is bad. It is all in the extractor.

First, I never had an attraction to any cartridge that isn't identified by its bore and length measurements. 7x64, .375x2-1/4, 7.62x63 etc. are fine.

Identifying cartridges by name, date, parent cartridge, amount of powder, phase of the moon, etc. just doesn't make any sense to me.

That being said, I think all such cartridges should be proprietary. That would keep the silly cartridges from contaminating quality rifles.

There is nothing worse than finding a mint condition Mannlicher-Schoenauer chambered in .270 Winchester. The UN should also manadate a doctrine that prohibits anything concieved by Weatherby, Ackley, Winchester or Remington from being chambered in a Mauser action.

We like a bit of danger for sport. The rifleman's art should not be restricted by the status quo. Just don't expect everyone else to agree, always know your limitations, and take responsibility for your actions.

That adds up to toleration of things like the Dakota 76 AND the Weatherby Mark V. There are degrees of BAD.

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Originally posted by Mike375:
The 338/06 in the Weatherby rifle. For some obsure reason that rifle/calibre combination did not last long

Year of intro: 2001, same as re-intro of .375 Wby
Checked the store, the .338/06 Mark V Ultra Lightweight is still there, about $900, and only weighs 6.0 pounds bare/empty, with fluted stainless barrel. Dies available in store for $49. Weatherby factory ammo still on the shelf.
It was tough, but I was able to keep my hands off of it. It was a sales rep demo gun and has a pretty bad scrape on the alloy floorplate.

I sometimes wonder if Roy Weatherby had the foresight to see the day when gun forums would appear

Mike

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Originally posted by Mike375:

I might just add that RIP has a Wby Mark V barreled action fitted to a CZ stock. That is really bad

Mike

The best part of that combination, is the CZ stock!

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Originally posted by MacD37:

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Originally posted by Mike375:

I might just add that RIP has a Wby Mark V barreled action fitted to a CZ stock. That is really bad

Mike

The best part of that combination, is the CZ stock!

That was a figment of Mike's playful imagination. But you are right about that combo Mac.

Now a CZ 550 Magnum of .378 Wby chambering ... to place it in a rebuilt "Dark Timber Camo" Weatherby Custom Shop stock would be doo-a-bull.
I'm bad.

RIP,

That might be a good combination for a couple of reasons.

Firstly, you will get the excellent recoil attributes of the Wby stock shape.

Now lets look at penetration. From a thread a while ago the agreement was that maximum penetration was around 2300 or 2400. However, on an earlier thread on the 416 Wby one of the disadvantages cited for the Wby was over penetration due to escessive velocity. So I guess this must be something to do with the Wby barrel and you have the CZ barrel.

Losing ammo in Africa for such calibres as the 378 is seen as a major disadvantage. However, this does not seem to apply to 475 Number 2 etc. So I can only assume that it is a product of the Wby barreled action and you have the CZ so you should be OK.

Thus, overall, an excellent package.

Mike

Lets see- The Weatherby Australian Classic- A 378 with that rich glossy finish ( viewable only where not covered by DUCT TAPE which holds the cracks and splinters together) sporting a enormous Varmint scope ( with reminants of Blood and eyebrow still attached) a muzzel brake manufactured by drilling a pipe and soldering it to the barrel ( crooked of course). This abomination is then used by the Aussies on driven Roos while driving( actually bouncing) recklessly across the posted countryside in a US reject pickup ( equipped with a supercharger), at night and in a totally drunken state! They either fall off ( due to the recoil, or are thrown off by their own Mates who then shoot them mistaking them for a BIG ROO! Of corse they used to do this with semi-autos till they let their government ban them. Did I get this Vision from Hell right?

That is close except the vehichle is more likely to be a Toyota for night time.

For daytime, 350 ex speedway sedan across the stripped wheat paddocks.

Mike

Allen and Rip,
I guess its in the same vien as a lot of Aussies considering Steve Irwin a little too 'Australian' to handle. Also this forum would not represent the average US hunters opinion on wby's I don't think. Well I'm pretty sure or Weatherby would have had to drop all the DG calibres the same year they came out.

Mike,
I find the heavy weatherby calibres are generally not suitable for hunting from the Land rover defender.
Firing when roos are hemmed in against the fence at high speed, the 270 winchester is about my limit one handed.

And a 270 winchester in a weatherby rifle would be a bit tastless I'm sure you'd all agree.

Karl.

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Originally posted by Robgunbuilder:
Any Weatherby made Rifle in any caliber or configuration. i.e Pimp Gun!-Rob

You got that right....and add to that any thing listed as Ackley Improved!

Vapodog,
Your footballers look like they are wearing a queensize bed wrapped in Lycra, while the rest of the world's footballers get by wearing shorts and a shirt.

Your baseballers look like spacemen to me.

Your sports cars look like someone has tried to breed a tank with a shark.

Yet when it comes to the shooting sports you hate 'those god awful weatherby pimp rifles'.

You guys absolutely fucking kill me

PS I love all your high impact stuff.I think its what makes America great.