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Poll - What is the ideal big bore rifle weight?

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19 May 2014, 08:00
Grenadier
Poll - What is the ideal big bore rifle weight?
What do you consider (ponder) the ideal rifle weight for each to the following rifles to be?<BR><BR>Don't worry what weight manufacturer A, B, or C makes their rifles in.<BR><BR>Ignore barrel length and contour. We will assume the barrel is the appropriate length and contour for caliber and to balance the rifle between the hands.<BR><BR>Consider the unloaded weight of the bare rifle. If it has a scope or a muzzle brake or infrared or a cooling fan then they are attached, not part of the rifle, and should not be considered in the weights below.<BR><BR>Don't worry about ounces or weights in between the choices. Just pick the best or closest answer to the ideal weight.<BR><BR>Don't worry about the type of rifle. Some of these cartridges are only found in doubles, some only in bolt rifles, and some in more than one type of rifle. Whatever the choices, pick what you consider the best answer.<BR><BR>Calibers are not listed in bore size order (for a reason).<BR><BR>This should be easy.What is the ideal weight in pounds for a rifle in caliber .416 Ruger?88.599.51010.51111.5121314151617181920 or moreWhat is the ideal weight in pounds for a rifle in caliber .505 Gibbs?88.599.51010.51111.5121314151617181920 or moreWhat is the ideal weight in pounds for a rifle in caliber .404 Jeffery?88.599.51010.51111.5121314151617181920 or moreWhat is the ideal weight in pounds for a rifle in caliber .375 H&H?88.599.51010.51111.5121314151617181920 or moreWhat is the ideal weight in pounds for a rifle in caliber .416 Rigby?88.599.51010.51111.5121314151617181920 or moreWhat is the ideal weight in pounds for a rifle in caliber .470 NE?88.599.51010.51111.5121314151617181920 or moreWhat is the ideal weight in pounds for a rifle in caliber .375 Ruger?88.599.51010.51111.5121314151617181920 or moreWhat is the ideal weight in pounds for a rifle in caliber .450 NE?88.599.51010.51111.5121314151617181920 or moreWhat is the ideal weight in pounds for a rifle in caliber 500/465 NE?88.599.51010.51111.5121314151617181920 or moreWhat is the ideal weight in pounds for a rifle in caliber .500 NE?88.599.51010.51111.5121314151617181920 or moreWhat is the ideal weight in pounds for a rifle in caliber .458 Lott?88.599.51010.51111.5121314151617181920 or moreWhat is the ideal weight in pounds for a rifle in caliber .577 NE?88.599.51010.51111.5121314151617181920 or moreWhat is the ideal weight in pounds for a rifle in caliber 9.3x74R?88.599.51010.51111.5121314151617181920 or moreWhat is the ideal weight in pounds for a rifle in caliber .458 Winchester?88.599.51010.51111.5121314151617181920 or moreWhat is the ideal weight in pounds for a rifle in caliber .600 NE?88.599.51010.51111.5121314151617181920 or more




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19 May 2014, 08:17
Rockdoc
I have or have shot some rifles in some of those calibers, some i have extrapolated. Gun-fit more than weight is more important but don't like too heavy.

Cheers,

Chris


DRSS
19 May 2014, 15:27
p dog shooter
There are some here who really enjoy recoil.
19 May 2014, 20:05
Idaho Sharpshooter
Stock fit is where you live or die...
19 May 2014, 23:26
mdstewart
From the responses thus far, it appears folks like to shoot the very light rifles even in the biggest bores. I've shot a lot of big bores, and regardless of stock design, I like heavier than lighter on the really big bores.

Maybe others are just tougher than me, but I doubt it. I understand it's easier to carry a light rifle, but range practice is more important in my view.


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Alex Henry 500/450 Double Rifle
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Walther PPQ H2 9mm
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Cogswell & Harrison Hammer 12 Bore Damascus
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19 May 2014, 23:43
Mikelravy
I don't think I want to shoot a 577 NE that weighs 8 pounds.
20 May 2014, 01:06
mdstewart
Who's the overly accomplished marksman who wants to shoot the .600 NE in an 8 lb rifle?

I want to watch that, especially for a quick response 4 shots. Now that's a real man!


JP Sauer Drilling 12x12x9.3x72
David Murray Scottish Hammer 12 Bore
Alex Henry 500/450 Double Rifle
Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock 6.5x55
Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock .30-06
Walther PPQ H2 9mm
Walther PPS M2
Cogswell & Harrison Hammer 12 Bore Damascus
And Too Many More
20 May 2014, 02:06
capoward
quote:
Originally posted by mdstewart:
Who's the overly accomplished marksman who wants to shoot the .600 NE in an 8 lb rifle?

I want to watch that, especially for a quick response 4 shots. Now that's a real man!
I didn't vote for the 8 lb. .600 NE - but I'll counter with the 11 lb. .375 H&H & Ruger or the 13 lb. 450 NE. That's just plain silly.


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20 May 2014, 02:34
BigBoreMan
Does the 20lb + category include the weight of the wheelbarrow you will need for transporting the rifle through the bush?
20 May 2014, 04:32
MARK H. YOUNG
I could not vote because I can't answer about the weight for calibers I have no experience with.


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20 May 2014, 05:15
376 steyr
A good sling handles weight very nicely all day long. You won't see me lugging around a rifle, even a light one, on top of my shoulder and holding it by the barrel and constantly changing shoulders.
20 May 2014, 23:36
JPK
quote:
Originally posted by 376 steyr:
A good sling handles weight very nicely all day long. You won't see me lugging around a rifle, even a light one, on top of my shoulder and holding it by the barrel and constantly changing shoulders.


I've carried them every conceivable way through a day. I even carry a slung rifle African style for a break. With maybe seven or eight hours of walking there is no single way to do it.

JPK


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21 May 2014, 03:24
56hawk
quote:
Originally posted by mdstewart:
Who's the overly accomplished marksman who wants to shoot the .600 NE in an 8 lb rifle?

I want to watch that, especially for a quick response 4 shots. Now that's a real man!


Well, I have a 600 Overkill that weights 8.75 lbs. Recoil isn't as bad as you would think as you can see in the video:

http://youtu.be/ktQd6iiCNJk


21 May 2014, 04:02
p dog shooter
Of course all light recoiling rifles set you bad two steps
21 May 2014, 08:04
chuck375
quote:
Originally posted by 56hawk:
quote:
Originally posted by mdstewart:
Who's the overly accomplished marksman who wants to shoot the .600 NE in an 8 lb rifle?

I want to watch that, especially for a quick response 4 shots. Now that's a real man!


Well, I have a 600 Overkill that weights 8.75 lbs. Recoil isn't as bad as you would think as you can see in the video:

http://youtu.be/ktQd6iiCNJk



No muzzle brake right?


Regards,

Chuck



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21 May 2014, 21:14
56hawk
quote:
Originally posted by chuck375:


No muzzle brake right?


That's right. Smiler
23 May 2014, 04:31
chuck375
I am impressed


Regards,

Chuck



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Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness"
24 May 2014, 07:25
Grenadier
quote:
Originally posted by 56hawk:

Well, I have a 600 Overkill that weights 8.75 lbs. Recoil isn't as bad as you would think as you can see in the video:



Nice. Now, please do us a favor and show us how quick it is to shoot that with a rapid follow-up shot or two.




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27 May 2014, 02:46
56hawk
quote:
Originally posted by Grenadier:

Nice. Now, please do us a favor and show us how quick it is to shoot that with a rapid follow-up shot or two.


Wish I could. The ejector doesn't work yet. I've just been using it for fun, so I haven't taken the effort to get it to feed properly. Works great as a single shot though.
27 May 2014, 04:06
lavaca
Couldn't vote as I won't offer opinions on rifles I don't own or have extensive experience with. I suspect I'm light below .40 and heavy after that, however.
29 May 2014, 08:05
Safari James
quote:
Originally posted by chuck375:
quote:
Originally posted by 56hawk:
quote:
Originally posted by mdstewart:
Who's the overly accomplished marksman who wants to shoot the .600 NE in an 8 lb rifle?

I want to watch that, especially for a quick response 4 shots. Now that's a real man!


Well, I have a 600 Overkill that weights 8.75 lbs. Recoil isn't as bad as you would think as you can see in the video:

http://youtu.be/ktQd6iiCNJk



No muzzle brake right?


The recoil may not be as bad as "YOU" think but watching the video I'd suggest a quick follow up would be something difficult to pull off. I'd probably just keep that beast as a single shot.


Safari James
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10 June 2014, 03:21
bigdoggy2bore
I have alot of light weight big bores mostly from Safari Kids stuff. So I have shot quite a bit of liteweight bigbores. Anybody that wants an 8 or 8.5 lb rifle in 577 or 600 nitro with full loading is nuts.


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10 June 2014, 15:50
Rule 303
I tend to like lighter rifles in DG calibres as you carry them way more than shoot. However some of the heavy kickers I would rather a bit more weight than 9lb.

As said stock fit and stock construction does make a big difference.
25 June 2014, 21:48
Atkinson
The two I built weighed about 8.5 lbs with irons as do all my 375 H&Hs..With a 3X Leupold scope and talley bases they usually weigh 9.5 lbs. Take into consideration wood density and weight can vary a quarter of a pound either way, and in some cases as much as a half pound, but with proper stock design that makes very little difference in recoil as far as I can tell..adding a couple of pounds makes a difference in recoil I suppose, but packing a 10.5 to 11 pound gun all day in Africas heat isn't pleasant, I'll opt for less weight and a bit more recoil for a couple of shots any day.

The .416 and 404 Rugers I built came out about the same. with no ill effects IMO.


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