24 February 2004, 14:45
LongShotRXDAMN, no argument here!! Thanks for some great pics.
Joe
24 February 2004, 16:09
craigsterAs we used to say in Vietnam when we saw the rounds impact, "Get some!".
Semper Fidelis
25 February 2004, 10:30
BrentFinally, some true black powder big bores.
Brent
25 February 2004, 12:06
ScottSBrent,
I realize you are up on your history
, but there are NO black powder big bores on this thread!
The 16" guns are quite cool aren't they!!
Have seen them up close and in person my than once, on board the USS Missouri. They aren't that big looking in real life
Interesting side note. If you were lucky enough to obtain an Iowa class as a museum, the Government would loan it to you for that use, you are obliged not to utilize/reactivate several systems on board the vessel while it is in your care. One system which is omitted from this list of "not to play with" things are the main guns! So, technically speaking, one could fire off those 16" rifles legally, but don't fire up the mess!
Scott
26 February 2004, 13:56
sakoLove the one, third from the top!!!
Talking about recoil!
26 February 2004, 14:29
ScrollcutterLoved the photos myself. Look at how the water is churned up from the muzzle blast of the 16 inchers.
26 February 2004, 14:57
jeffeossothe tank, in the air, firing... WOW
jeffe
26 February 2004, 15:58
cr500Sort of makes the 700 NEs, 550 Mags and 585 Nyatis look a bit woosy. I like the tank one.
28 February 2004, 05:47
ScottSBrent,
Please show us your documentation.
Scott
28 February 2004, 06:32
ScottSBrent,
According to my research the entire charge is black powder.
Quote:
In 1969, Captain Edward Snyder of the New Jersey was quoted as saying that the AP shell is capable of penetrating up to 32 feet of reinforced concrete. The HC round carries a high-explosive charge of 154 pounds. The maximum rang eis 41,622 yards when fired with the normal propelling charge of 660 pounds of black powder, with a muzzle velocity of 2,690 feet per second
Wow, I would have never guessed that. I stand corrected. I think I will just stop arguing with your while I am only slightly behind (2 to 0). First the buffalo now the battleship, I definitely am going to stop questioning your comments. You are far more knowledgeable about this stuff than me! Sorry for being such an arse.
Scott
28 February 2004, 07:31
WyoJoeBeing an old navy man these pictures light up my heart. Loved the one of the tank in the air. Downloaded it to my computer. On my ship (a destroyer) we had the puny little 5" guns. Don't know what powder it used but I remember it was a 35lb charge (I toted a few of those charges resupplying the ship). We did a 150 round rapid fire qualification of of Vieques (sp?). It was hilarious firing 5 inchers as fast as you could.
28 February 2004, 13:01
ScottSBrent,
All bullshitting aside, perhaps you should check out this site:
The poop on the 16" guns of the US of A The BP charge is only in the primer. It is NOT a duplex load.
My last post was meant in sarcasm and jest. I apologize to everyone, besides Brent. I just cannot stand "know-it-alls"
that don't know squat!
<why do I post on this forum again???>
Brent, the brits loaded their 16" and 14" guns (along with everything else) with Cordite. The Germans used flake powder, our was extruded.
Sorry to break it to you, but black powder, well it's just obsolete. Has been for about 120 years.
Scott
28 February 2004, 13:17
tiggertateI strongly recommend to everyone that if they ever get near Aberdeen Maryland, make time to go to the Ordinance Museum!! Among the overwhelming displays are a coatal 16" Naval gun and you cannot appreciate them 'til your standing next to one. There is also "Anzio Annie" which was the German railroad gun equivalent and "Atomic Annie", the Nuke cannon. I Could go on for pages and pages. Go if you get the chance.
