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What low cost rifles are faithful Mauser design?
27 June 2017, 00:51
Brian564What low cost rifles are faithful Mauser design?
If we are talking less than $1500, are there any good quality rifles that are true copies if the Mauser action?
Please limit this to factory (no custom rifles), and new (no used ones).
Thanks.
27 June 2017, 02:52
Dead EyeZastava M98's are Mauser actions with nice adjustable triggers
27 June 2017, 04:02
ramrod340As Dead Eye stated the closest for your $$ goal the Zastava Zastava.
Then you jump to Mauser inspired like the CZ M70 etc.
As usual just my $.02
Paul K
27 June 2017, 05:38
AtkinsonHuskvarna, Mark 10, FNs are real close to a 98 and even referred to as a Mauser. The mod. 70 is supposedly a improved Mauser but I still prefer a Mauser..All kinds of Mauser and Mauser off shoots out there..Paul Mauser was way beyond his time, its still the best of the best.
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
27 June 2017, 07:25
ramrod340Ray
His NEW requirement eliminates a good number on your list.
As usual just my $.02
Paul K
27 June 2017, 07:32
medvedzastava.
First off we have to define what is meant by a Mauser ?

Hint:

a Remington model 700 is a Mauser derivative, so are many others
Or are we referring to the Model 98 action type ? a collection of Mauser patents going back over years starting off with the dual opposing locking lugs that engage a ring cut in the front bridge of the action ......
28 June 2017, 07:10
sambarman338Believe it or not, reliability sometimes depends on not just aping a design but precise adherence to a the original specs. Some Ruger bolt actions are CRF but have a narrower spring than the M98. It compresses unevenly at the ends and becomes unreliable if not constantly oiled. I have seen one give successive misfires until oiled.
quote:
Originally posted by ALF:
First off we have to define what is meant by a Mauser ?

Hint:

a Remington model 700 is a Mauser derivative, so are many others
Or are we referring to the Model 98 action type ? a collection of Mauser patents going back over years starting off with the dual opposing locking lugs that engage a ring cut in the front bridge of the action ......
James Paris Lee claimed Mauser copied his magazine box, a case of 19th Century industrial espionage!
Truly, we could get off into the weeds on this one!
The Zastava (Interarms Mk X, Remington M798, Charles Daley), FN commercial, etc.:
These possess the extractor bevel that draws the extractor closer to the bolt as the bolt is drawn rearward with a case under the claw,
like a genuine Mauser 98.
The CZ 550 Medium and Magnum do too.
The Winchester and Ruger CRF actions do not have this controlled-round-extraction, CRE.
A true Mauser is CRF and CRE, i.e., CRF&E.
That is the heart of the matter.
Considering anything else is just getting off into the weeds.
Like how a Remington M700 pushfeed is a Mauser derivative, same as humans and apes have a common ancestor.
The Mauser 98 Standard or Magnum are CRF&E.
So are CZ 550 Medium or Magnum and their BRNO forerunners like the ZKK 602.
CZ combines features of the Ruger, Winchester, and Remington Mauser derivatives plus the truly essential True Mauser CRF&E.
Safeties, triggers, etc. can be customized to your liking when you are ready to get into the weeds.
THE FEW THE PROUD THE 395 FAMILYRip
This is an excerpt for book review purposes of Stuart Otteson's
THE BOLT ACTION, page 13:
Book Review: Excellent!
The second volume is great too!
Above explains the all-important CRF&E: "extractor tongue undercuts"
The bevel on the tongue mates with one on the groove circling the bolt head.
This will pull the extractor inward toward center axis of bolt as bolt is withdrawn during extraction.
This prevents extractor from losing control of the cartridge rim.
For cheap Mauser, see below, those were the days, this ad is not quite as old as I am.
It would have been a steal even adjusted for inflation:
THE FEW THE PROUD THE 395 FAMILYRip
Extractor tongue bevel on a CZ 550 Magnum for .416 Rigby, now a 500 Mbogo: CRF and CRE
Like a true Mauser 98.
No extractor tongue bevel on MRC M1999 PH for .505 Gibbs, now a .408 CheyTac: CRF but not CRE
Like a Winchester M70, Dakota M76, Ruger M77, etc.
CZ 550 Magnum on the left:
THE FEW THE PROUD THE 395 FAMILYRip
05 July 2017, 03:23
AtkinsonRamrod,
What NEW requirements, I don't see any new requirements..
but the guns I mention can be had for under a $1000 in excellent condition.
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
05 July 2017, 03:55
ramrod340quote:
Ramrod,What NEW requirements, I don't see any new requirements
"""Please limit this to factory (no custom rifles), and new (no used ones). """
As usual just my $.02
Paul K
05 July 2017, 04:58
Brian564Great information here. Thank you all!
05 July 2017, 05:11
swampshooterThere's nothing wrong with a used Mauser if it was taken care of and is in good condition.
velocity is like a new car, always losing value.
BC is like diamonds, holding value forever.
05 July 2017, 05:17
ramrod340quote:
There's nothing wrong with a used Mauser if it was taken care of and is in good condition.

I agree 100%. I was simply relaying the original poster's request. I've picked up several used Mark X and FN's that looked almost unfired.
As usual just my $.02
Paul K