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02 January 2012, 02:43
new_guy
Update on new HEYM "Martini" Rifle
After 2+ years of planning and preparation, we're very pleased to say that the first rifles are now complete, and that the new HEYM "Martini" is in production.

Here is a 375 that I just unpacked. This is "standard" wood for this rifle.











And here's a look back a month or so at the machined parts







Of note here is the magazine box. Each is caliber-specific. Notice how this one "hugs" the sides of the 404 stack perfectly?



Here is part of the team in Germany last August with a completed rifle.



You can see this one and a few others at booth 3000 in Dallas.


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02 January 2012, 03:08
Canadaboy
Very nice! How much will these cost?


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02 January 2012, 03:58
GeorgeS
Very nice!

One question leaps to mind - will it be made available in the U.S.A. in left-hand?

George


02 January 2012, 07:37
Oldsarge
That's a beautiful rifle but what makes it a "Martini"?


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02 January 2012, 09:33
prof242
George S.,

+1 tu2


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02 January 2012, 13:24
shootaway
quote:
Originally posted by Oldsarge:
That's a beautiful rifle but what makes it a "Martini"?
Ralph Martini
02 January 2012, 15:17
ozhunter
Very nice tu2
02 January 2012, 17:21
Bockhunter
GREAT !!!! dancing


02 January 2012, 17:44
Peter
Ditto on the cost!
Peter.


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02 January 2012, 19:53
bobgrow
Chris...Just beautiful!!
But checker the bolt knob...


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02 January 2012, 19:57
Charles_Helm
When New_Guy first posted in this thread, the price was $9500. May have changed.

Update thread.


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04 January 2012, 10:13
nopride2
Nice. I like the Mauser flange.

Dave
04 January 2012, 14:17
Wink
The cartridge specific boxes are a nice feature, rarely seen these days.


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04 January 2012, 16:13
PC
Whatd does this rifle retail for it truly is beautiful !!
05 January 2012, 00:38
Peter
PC if you take the link in Charles_Helm's post you will see that it is probably around 10 grand. A beautiful rifle, but out of my price range for a bolt gun.
Peter.


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06 January 2012, 07:30
GarBy
It's a Martini because when you order one and you pull it out of the box with that wood on it, you just have to lay it across your warthog tusks and pour yourself a smooth one......

Well, I would anyway.

Very nice, Chris.

Still in love with my "old" Heym 404 and 500 Jeff's!

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07 January 2012, 05:30
Chapsboro
Beautiful gun. I have a .375 Jeffery built late'40s and there are a lot of similarities in the stock design, etc.
07 January 2012, 20:50
Michael Robinson
Well done! tu2


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07 January 2012, 21:00
bigdoggy2bore
wHAT CALIBERS WILL IT BE AVAILABLE IN??


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08 January 2012, 01:04
Philip A.
Why are the angles on the integral bases left so sharp? Ready to bite into tender flesh and rip it apart...

The only weapon with justifiable sharp edges is a blade. Any other weapon meant to be handled by a living being should have shapes that are friendly to the holder.

Nothing that can't be fixed, but it ought to be done by the builder. Just so as to give that human touch to the job...

Besides that, great looking rifle. Better than the original Heym Express, IMHO.
08 January 2012, 02:01
Ramsgate
quote:
Originally posted by Philip A.:
Any other weapon meant to be handled by a living being should have shapes that are friendly to the holder.


Yours may well be a majority opinion but for me, melted edges always look like an amateur got frisky with a belt sander.
08 January 2012, 18:54
Philip A.
quote:
Yours may well be a majority opinion but for me, melted edges always look like an amateur got frisky with a belt sander.



Melted edges with a buffing wheel or belt sander are the hallmark of an accomplished butcherer, yes.

One of the first things that was knocked into our head as apprentices at precision machinists school in Switzerland, was to always "break the angles" on filed and finished jobs.

On complex parts, this can only be done by hand - and by a skilled hand at that.

Nowadays, with CNC machining, they just skip the process because it is time- and money-consuming, unless it is done by throwing the parts in a vibrating vat full of abrasive stones (which I don't think is advisable on a finished high-end rifle action).

Hence, a reallly sharp angle elicits the thought "sloppy computer machining job..." in the mind of those who know what a hand-crafted precision part looks like.

And I do insist: in a weapon, form must follow function. One of the most important functions is to be handler-friendly...
09 January 2012, 09:25
Michael Robinson
Philip, have you grabbed a Picatinny rail lately? Big Grin


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09 January 2012, 09:41
Philip A.
A Picatinny rail does not really qualify as a "traditional bespoke rifle" part... Big Grin
10 January 2012, 03:18
Biebs
I saw a friend of Jeff Wemmer's walking away with a new one in 416 Rigby at the DSC Saturday afternoon. He seemed quite pleased.
09 February 2012, 02:58
Mauser9,3x62
today I have shot the new Heym Martini Cal. 375 H&H in Gleichamberg......thats a fantastic rifle, shots very well...I order a 416 Rigby, thats my dream rifle, yesSmiler

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09 February 2012, 13:08
Mauser9,3x62
some pictures, Heym Martini Cal. 375 H&H


















09 February 2012, 14:03
ozhunter
quote:
Originally posted by Michael Robinson:
Philip, have you grabbed a Picatinny rail lately? Big Grin


Must be like the Warn mounts on a rifle I picked up the other day, Very aggressive .
Like Plilip A. said. Sharp edges on a rifle built to be carried is not a great plan.
10 February 2012, 05:20
N E 450 No2
Bigdoggy

It will be avialable in 375 H&H, 404 Jeffery, 416 Rigby, and 458 Lott.

Each magazine box is specific for the calibre.


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10 February 2012, 10:16
dogcat
Pardon my ignorance, but what constitutes "Martini" ? Is it the short fore end on the stock?

I assume in all other cases it is a .375 H&H or whatever.
10 February 2012, 18:49
McKay
quote:
Originally posted by dogcat:
Pardon my ignorance, but what constitutes "Martini" ? Is it the short fore end on the stock?

I assume in all other cases it is a .375 H&H or whatever.


The stock is Ralph Martini's design.


Mac

10 February 2012, 19:30
DavidC
Mauser9.3x62,

Congratulations....what a great looking rifle!

Love the idead of a pair of Martini Heyms rifles in .375 H&H and .416 Rigby.

Do you have an African trip planned for these two?

We need some more pics...a little less dark this time! Wink

Best,
Dave
11 February 2012, 19:11
PD999
I noticed that there is only a single front cross-bolt, as on any Holland & Holland, Westley Richards, or Hartmann & Weiss.

I've heard that a second rear cross-bolt can actually weaken the stock; wonder why other manufacturers put in a second?


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12 February 2012, 16:10
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12 February 2012, 17:18
Bushchook
Beautiful but tend to agree on the sharp edges issue.


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19 March 2012, 06:53
Aglifter
Yowsa, on the wood...


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09 April 2012, 23:54
new_guy
I've received several calls on left-hand versions.

At this time, no left-hand version is available.


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23 April 2012, 19:53
new_guy
quote:
Originally posted by Philip A.:
Why are the angles on the integral bases left so sharp? Ready to bite into tender flesh and rip it apart...

The only weapon with justifiable sharp edges is a blade. Any other weapon meant to be handled by a living being should have shapes that are friendly to the holder.

Nothing that can't be fixed, but it ought to be done by the builder. Just so as to give that human touch to the job...

Besides that, great looking rifle. Better than the original Heym Express, IMHO.




Philip - here are the hand-broken edges you requested.




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24 April 2012, 03:52
maxbear
I really like this rifle a lot compared to the old version.

I can't imagine how much talking it took to get the German's to change their old way.

Chris you deserve a keg of beer. Good Job!!!!
24 April 2012, 05:14
RIP
Well! So as to maintain the German pride of cutting edge, how about offering it chambered in 9.5x70mm Tornado and 12.7x68mm Magnum Tornado?
That would be a do-all 2-rifle battery.
And how about getting rid of the wood and offering the better synthetic stock like a B&C Medalist?
And to clinch the sale on a pair of these: stainless steel throughout
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