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Re: EAA[Bakail] side by side dbl. rifle in .45-70

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22 December 2003, 15:54
Crazyquik
Re: EAA[Bakail] side by side dbl. rifle in .45-70
Anyone have anymore info on these? At $630 it sounds exciting. I think I read in another thread that these are on an annex list so they aren't in the US yet, does anyone have anymore info?
22 December 2003, 16:07
jeffeosso
I emailed them last tuesday... said they hope to see them in 2004...

<frown>
jeffe
22 December 2003, 16:40
Crazyquik
I just emailed them after I posted this.

You'd think with the 50 emails they got from us alone they'd be trying pretty hard to get them in.

I also emailed about availability of the 45-70 barrel tube conversions.
23 December 2003, 05:35
Crazyquik
Just got the email, said they are held up in paperwork and they plan on early 2004.

Also said they have 30-30 barrel tubes now.
24 December 2003, 11:57
MacD37
Quail Wing, That is absolutely the most incorrect disscription of a mono-block I have seen in my 61 years of gun ownership!



The Mono-block is milled from a one piece of steel that includes the lumps, and the reciever rings for the barrels to fit into, exactly the same way the barrels are fit into a Mauser bolt rifle. The mono-block is fitted to the action in the same manner as a chopper lump barrel set. Then the

barrels are are threaded into the mono-block till they are flush with the standing breach. The barrels are then removed and chambered with the base of the case flush with the end of the barrels. The barrels are then threaded back into the mono-block,and the barrel wedges applied,temperary sights fitted, and regulated for the load! Perminate sights fitted, and the ribs bottom and top are added, and the finish is applied.



Just think of a Mauser action with a two hole reciever rings,two bolts, with two barrels threaded in the two holes in the reciever rings side by side, and what you have is a bolt action mono-block, double barrel!



There is absolutely nothing wrong with a Mono-block double rifle, or shotgun. It is how well the fitting is done, not the method of doing that counts. The mono-block system is not where the draw back is with a $630 double rifle, but the quality of the fitting, and materials. Actually the Bekeil would worry me more if it were a chopper lump at that price, because the hand fitting of the blocks cannot be done for $630, even in Russia, unless you use slave labor!



Simply because these things are so cheap, I'll probably buy one,in 45-70, and rebarrel it, with a pair of thin barrels, to 30-30 win. with 20" barrels for a brush country whitetail rifle! However the words "cheap", and "double rifle" do not belong in the same sentence!
24 December 2003, 12:13
MacD37
Art S, there is no reason the barrels can't hold a longer cartridge past the end of the mono-block! That's like saying a Mauser action can only be chambered for a cartridge the is no longer that the reciever ring. The barrels are chambered exactly the same way, the barrels are chambered, and threaded into the mono-block, the same way you thread a chambered barrel into a Mauser action. The only shrunk fit barrels, are on Berretta shotguns. All double rifles are either silver brased in, or thereaded into the mono-block. There are many fine Mono-block actioned double rifles with 470NE 3 1/4" chambers, or even the 450#2 Nitro express, which has an OAL of just over 4"!