Bell and Carlson Stocks for a 460 Weatherby

01 March 2003, 06:11

Hello

I need some opinions. I need to restock my 460 Weatherby built on a FN action. Ten years ago I put a Laminated stock on it. The laminations are seperating at the glue lines. It is bedded with devcon steel epoxy and cross bolts. I thought at the time I would never have to put another stock on it.

I am considering put a Bell and Carlson Medalist stock that has a aluminum bedding block in it. I spoke with one of their techs and he said this stock would handle the recoil. What are some of your opinions? Thank you inadvance for your thought, opinion and advice.

Mark

01 March 2003, 06:23

Lee Martin

The Medalist should work fine.

Lee Martin
www.singleactions.com

01 March 2003, 06:42

GeorgeS

Get their guarantee about that stock handling the .460 Wby. in writing.

George

01 March 2003, 16:33

Bill/Oregon

I picked the Medalist for my .416 Taylor on a VZ-24 Mauser action. So far, I love it, but must confess I haven't shot it much yet.

01 March 2003, 17:58

<ovis>

Coloradoyaler,

A local smith recently told me that he had "heard"
that B & C had had a problem with stocks breaking just below the wrist when used with heavy recoiling rifles. I'm restocking my .375RUM and was looking at all the options. I'm picking up a Hogue Overmolded tomorrow. It appears the B&C Medalist would also be a good choice.

Joe

01 March 2003, 18:07

KMuleinAK

Just installed a 300RUM on a rem 700 in a B&C Medalist (yeah, it's not a big bore) - anyway, I needed to clearance the barrel and the area for the bolt handle - weight is right at 36 oz. = it appears to be well made - seems to me that this rifle now delivers all recoil straight back as compared to the tupperware factory stock which demonstrated some "jump" - have approx. 60 rounds through the rifle, will shoot more this weekend - I believe the aluminum section goes through the wrist / grip area and once it ends, the stock dimensions increase considerably - heck, who knows for sure- give it a try and tell us what happens - Question: why are you going to synthetic and not returning to lam / wood? Just asking, not trying to judge your decision - good luck - KMule

01 March 2003, 18:41

Brian M

The only synthetic stock on the market that even claims to handel the 460 is the McMillian.You can get one from RickBin on 24hrcampefire for under $300.Can't beat that.

Brian.

02 March 2003, 03:36

D Humbarger

Get that warrenty in writting. I truely feel you'll ne needing it.

02 March 2003, 12:53

Charlie M

I think Weatherby are using a Bell and Carlson stock on thier DGR rifle.
Good luck,
Charlie

04 March 2003, 05:03

Coloradoyaler

Thank you all for your opinions and advise. Bell and Carlson does have a warranty on their stocks. Weatherby is using an aluminum bedding block for their Composite stocks which I believe to be B&C stocks. I just ordered the Medalist stock from B&C. I'll let you all know how it works.

Thanks again

Mark

04 March 2003, 08:39

<ovis>

Coloradoyaler,

I went to pick up the Hogue stock Saturday and it wasn't there. I, also, ordered the Bell& Carlson Medalist last night, for my .375RUM. Good luck with your choice.

Joe

04 March 2003, 08:48

Orion 1

ALL composite stocks on Weatherby rifles are made by Bell & Carlson. That includes the one on the DGR, which is exactly the same thing that you get when you buy Medalist from B&C.

I doubt they don't stand up.

19 March 2003, 08:36

Coloradoyaler

Hello

I have installed the Bell $ Carlson stock and shot it with some very stout handloads. I am very pleased so far with this stock. It is the Medalist with the aluminum bedding block. I ran some handloads that I get an honest 2700fps with the 500gr Hornday. Also, I shot the 350gr Hornday at 3000fps. I am pleased with the way the stock helps control recoil. But don,t kid yourself, it still kicks!!!!!

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26 March 2003, 09:13

<Per577>

quote:
Originally posted by Coloradoyaler:
Hello

I have installed the Bell $ Carlson stock and shot it with some very stout handloads. I am very pleased so far with this stock. It is the Medalist with the aluminum bedding block. I ran some handloads that I get an honest 2700fps with the 500gr Hornday. Also, I shot the 350gr Hornday at 3000fps. I am pleased with the way the stock helps control recoil. But don,t kid yourself, it still kicks!!!!!

Hey you !!
I'm very interested in your handloads so it would be nice if you could tell me excactly what loads those were,,thanks ! [Big Grin]

14 April 2003, 22:07

x-man

Mark.
Some thoughts on the B&C.
I had an 8 pound (scoped) .416 Rem. eat a B&C stock in about 30 firings. The .416 chewed up the recoil lug area badly. My stock was not an aluminum blocked one, but thought you should know that you are not buying McMillan quality or construcion.
I bought the B&C because the design looked right for recoil control and dissepation. You should also know that after my .416 was beded into a McMillan (gun still wieghed the same)I was able to shoot 30% or more rounds through the gun before I suffered from a reluctant trigger finger.
I can't explain it but several people shot the gun before and after and everyone said they liked the gun much better with the McMillan on.
The Bell and Carlson as also a little short in length of pull and I still have a deep scare to prove it.
Best Luck with your beast!

Jamie

17 April 2003, 03:25

Coloradoyaler

[ 04-16-2003, 18:38: Message edited by: Coloradoyaler ]

17 April 2003, 04:06

TC1

quote:
Originally posted by x-man:
Mark.
Some thoughts on the B&C.
I had an 8 pound (scoped) .416 Rem. eat a B&C stock in about 30 firings. The .416 chewed up the recoil lug area badly. My stock was not an aluminum blocked one, but thought you should know that you are not buying McMillan quality or construcion.
I bought the B&C because the design looked right for recoil control and dissepation. You should also know that after my .416 was beded into a McMillan (gun still wieghed the same)I was able to shoot 30% or more rounds through the gun before I suffered from a reluctant trigger finger.
I can't explain it but several people shot the gun before and after and everyone said they liked the gun much better with the McMillan on.
The Bell and Carlson as also a little short in length of pull and I still have a deep scare to prove it.
Best Luck with your beast!

Jamie

Jamie, did you send the stock to B&C and have it pinned before you shot it? When I purchased one for my .270 win I read in the instructions they recomend you do this for any round larger than a 7mag. I agree, it's not a McMillan [Wink]

19 April 2003, 20:32

x-man

Tc1,
Purchased the Bell and Carlson for a .340 wby and shot it for 10 years and 1700 rounds (shot the barrel out).
Never even heard about getting it pinned, but assumed (note the root word) that it would hold together. To my gunsmiths credit when I brought the B@C to him for bedding (project .416) he first asked if I was on social assistance and could not afford a McMillan. When I replied that it was my stock of choice for the project, he rolled his eyes and told me that it would cost about 150 bucks to reinforce the bedding. I told him not to bother as I felt it must be a pretty tough stock as it was.
I hate it when he's right!
He just smirked when I brought the folded stock back to him.
As a note of interest, my buddy has a .375 Wby with a Bell and Carlson ( 8.5lbs) that is the most consistently accurate .375 I have ever seen.
I believe he has about 600 rounds through it.
It has never been pinned either.
Go figure ??
Did I just admit I was wrong? [Big Grin]

Assume...???
Jamie