I'm thinking this for really big stuff. Does Weatherby market it in the Accumark? Please tell me about load data and experiences with the cartridge while reloading/hunting. Also, what is the accuracy of Weatherby rifles and are they worth the money?

I figured I'd chime in here before all the nay sayers get going.

No,the Accumark is not offered in 378,only because the geniuses at Weatherby can't figure out how to make the B&C stock accept two recoil lugs.

Just about everyone will tell you what a crappy cartridge the 378 is.The only person you should belive is a guy on here that goes by Pop-he's used the 378 quite a bit (unlike most)on game,and has nothing but praise for it.

I don't own a 378,but am working on getting one,either in a Mark V Deluxe or a custom Ruger #1.

I own 6 Weatherby stock factory rifles,and every single one of them will turn in sub-MOA (some of them WAY sub-MOA)3 shot groups at 100 yards.My dad had a 460 back in the 70s (with the old Pendelton De-Kicker so-called break-remember those?),and it shot clover leafs at 100 yards with both factory and handloads.

Ok Don and Mike,you can tell poor old Seamus how sh!tty the gun and the cartridge is.Don't forget to insult Roy's momma to.

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OK, Go out and buy a 378 and never look back. I have had a Lazermark for about 10 years, I'll tell you it don't kick like a 460 more like a 416 Wby. Mine is stock all the way and has no muzzel brake, and I shoot it from the bench. I get 2900 with 300gr and 3100 with 270 and 3400 with 250/235 bullets. Make no assumptions that it dosn't kick, but it not as bad as some scribes claim!

Style counts. On the left coast fancy inlays, white line spacers and reverse angle pistol grips are the rage so I see. So get the Weatherby.

I owned a .378 for a couple of years. It was a Mark V made by Sauer and it was very accurate. I never got the desire to load it over the minimum with the 270 gr Hornady. Mine had a aftermarket recoil pad the size of one of those butts on a antique Arab gun.

When my .375 Improved was ready I sold it.

The thinking then was that it shot the bullets too fast for reliable bullet action. Of course the bullets are so big as compared to the game on this continent that it would hammer anything flat here from both ends.

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When my .375 Improved was ready I sold it.

The thinking then was that it shot the bullets too fast for reliable bullet action. Of course the bullets are so big as compared to the game on this continent that it would hammer anything flat here from both ends.[/B]

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Yea; I did a 1-H 375 H&H to 375 WBY thinking the same thing about bullets, BOY that was a mistake the 375 WBY in that D--M Tropical Rifle was a real KILLER on my shoulder. Ruger has the worse stocks that I can think off, I also had a 458 Winney in a 1-H that was a real bone crusher, but the Weatherby rifles there worth every penny just in the way they handle recoil! And besides the cartage bring 'awes and oues' at the shooting ranges.

Colonel,

I just exchanged the rings on my #1S for higher ones. It's a .300 Win Mag and I always felt it really hurt on recoil. I had just got a M-70 in .300 H&H and was shooting both rifles at the range. The M-70 kicked a lot less. A very experianced shooter was watching me and said that my cheek turned red after shooting the #1. So I compared the stocks on a #1A to the #1S and the comb of the #1S is much thicker making the effective comb much too high for me. Thus sending the rings back to Ruger.

The Weatherby cheekpieces have always been the best for recoil. The late Floyd Butler made a cheekpiece that was as good but not as big long before Weatherby did it but I applaud the Weatherby cheekpiece. I wish more rifles had a similar one. I looked at a old Southgate made Weatherby at a show yesterday and it had that same great cheekpiece.

As for the Weatherby cases. It's the opposite reaction here. Show one of them at the range and we will look you in the eye and say nothing.

I think that a lot of people these days still think of Weatherbys as rifles only for "rich folks",and a lot of people look down on Weatherby shooters because of that.

Funny though,Winchesters are almost as expensive as Weatherbys now,but people don't get all riled up over those,even though the last Winchester M70s to come out of the factory have been almost unshootable (major feeding problems,horrible accuracy,ect.).

Just MHO.

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I'm out to wrong rights,depress the opressed,and generaly make an ass of myself!

I have never really thought of Weatherbys as rich men's rifles. Just highly decorated and gaudy (when made in Japan pieces of
sh!t). I owned a couple back in the 80's and while they were accurate they misfired routinely and were sent back multiple times to Japan (or at least that was what I was told) to have the firing pin springs replaced for better ones.

Todd E

Todd,
In my experiences with Weatherbys spanning from early German production by JP Sauer through todays USA produced guns,I have come to this conclusion-

The German models are a tad nicer,why I don't know.Just seems "better".Both the German and Jap models are very accurate.The Jap ones came with a little better trigger.

Had one USA rifle,and it was crap.I got a lemon-plain and simple.I think you probibly got a couple of lemon Jap made ones.

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I'm out to wrong rights,depress the opressed,and generaly make an ass of myself!

And besides the cartage bring 'awes and oues' at the shooting ranges.

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The above says it all! This seems to be the only thing that matters to Weatherby owners !

Hows that Brian?
OH, and PS: ROY'S MoM too!

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MacD37,

Never did really care about awes and oohs,though the peanut gallery was going "ouch" when they watched me shoot my 458 off the bench the other day.

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I'm out to wrong rights,depress the opressed,and generaly make an ass of myself!

I guess the level of your income is the deciding factor. When I bought my first Weatherby ( a 460 ) I had to pay for it over a period of 6 months, now I don't have to save so long as 15 years ago. The last caliber I purchased was a 257. I admit it isn't as expensive as a new 460!

By the way I about had a stroke the last time I was in a gun shop, there on the wall was a 460, a deluxe model and on the trigger guard was a price tag stating they wanted over 2K, 15 years ago I paid just over 1K for mine and it is a Lazermark. I don't know if I would pay that kind of money for a rifle now days. I didn't know inflation was that bad or is it because there made in the gready USA?

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Colonel,

460s have gone up in price,but not too much.You can find used but like new ones for $1200-$1400.A NIB USA one will set you back anywhere from $1500 to $1800,depending on the dealer.

I've seen a few guys advirtising NIB USA Mark V Deluxes for $2000,and one wanted $2250.Both claimed new production 460s were "rare".Last time I checked,I could call any dealer and they could get one in a week and a half.I guess if it takes more than a week to arrive it's rare.

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Get it! This is a great caliber, which I can not live without!
Mine is a semi custom rifle on a MKv action built by Mcmillan and Pac-nor. It shoots like a varmiint gun! As for loads..man I think I have tried everything....drop me a line! Iraklion@msn.com

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