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03 July 2003, 06:14

Overkill

Is this only for the military

Can you get a semi automatic rifle in caliber .50 BMG for hunting? Would it be possible to build a .700 BMG IMP on a .50 BMG Semi Automatic action?
Or is it only for the military???

Thanks!

03 July 2003, 06:23

Orion 1

quote:
Is this only for the military

In Kansas, no. There is no upper limit on caliber or ammunition capacity for hunting rifles.

[ 07-02-2003, 21:23: Message edited by: Orion 1 ]

03 July 2003, 06:44

eshell

quote:
Originally posted by Overkill:
Can you get a semi automatic rifle in caliber .50 BMG for hunting? . . .

Barrett makes a ten shot semi for the .50BMG with a detachable mag.

[ 07-02-2003, 21:44: Message edited by: eshell ]

03 July 2003, 08:19

Overkill

Does any one know if it is legal for hunting in sweden? It has become a new law that "all semi automatic rifles is legal for hunting but not if it looks like a military gun"

03 July 2003, 12:01

eshell

Take a look:

Some Barrett info

04 July 2003, 00:26

<eldeguello>

You can get one, but you wil need two gun bearers or a set of wheels to get it around in the woods!! [Big Grin]

09 July 2003, 10:03

Mikelravy

A Barret is about 5 feet long and weighs 35 pounds without ammo. Last one I saw was over five grand. I'll pass but I would love to shoot one

09 July 2003, 10:18

Orion 1

quote:
Originally posted by Overkill:
It has become a new law that "all semi automatic rifles is legal for hunting but not if it looks like a military gun"

What an idiotic law. Dead is dead.

09 July 2003, 10:38

Urodoji

What exactly is the point of "improving" a .50 BMG cartridge? It's not exactly lacking...

09 July 2003, 18:41

DanD

The Serbu BFG 50 Carbine only weighs 17lbs and costs $2395, thats really not that bad. I still wouldn't want to carry it around all day, but it's not to far fetched.

10 July 2003, 04:21

bill smith

DanD: I wouldn't want to carry around all day a 17 pound rifle either. but i'd damn sure rather carry a 17 pound 50BMG than shoot it from my shoulder..... [Smile]

roughly calculated:

378 Weatherby @ 9 pounds
300 grain bullet
114 grains of powder
mv = 2965
recoil = 72# @ 23fps

50BMG @ 17 pounds
800 grain bullet
225 grians of powder
mv = 2728
recoil = 196# @ 27fps

i'll have to pass on this one...... [Smile]

[ 07-09-2003, 19:34: Message edited by: bill smith ]

13 July 2003, 00:19

<eldeguello>

If you want to poop off that much money, you can! But I believe you'd need a gun-bearer, and ammo bearer, and someone to carry the tripod! Unless you plan to build a fortified position on the side of a mountain, and shoot things across the canyon!! [Eek!]

17 July 2003, 10:35

Urodoji

quote:
Originally posted by bill smith:
DanD: I wouldn't want to carry around all day a 17 pound rifle either. but i'd damn sure rather carry a 17 pound 50BMG than shoot it from my shoulder.....

roughly calculated:

378 Weatherby @ 9 pounds
300 grain bullet
114 grains of powder
mv = 2965
recoil = 72# @ 23fps

50BMG @ 17 pounds
800 grain bullet
225 grians of powder
mv = 2728
recoil = 196# @ 27fps

i'll have to pass on this one......

That's not an apples to apples comparison. The .50 BMG rifles are equipped with some rather large muzzle brakes, and believe me, I'd rather shoot a .50 BMG bolt action at 23 pounds all day long than a Benelli M1 Super 90 with slugs.

17 July 2003, 14:04

Karl

23lbs is over a full third heavier than 17 to carry mate.

[ 07-17-2003, 05:06: Message edited by: Karl ]

17 July 2003, 16:51

DanD

Never said I would be the one shooting, just stating it was possible. I think the weight lifting instructor at my gym (6'4" 345lbs.) might have a chance, heheh.

18 July 2003, 11:18

Robgunbuilder

Duh- Seems to me I remember carrying a M60 Machine gun for quite awhile and never complained too much about it's weight! Other guys carried most of the ammo though. so why can't you carry a Barret if you wanted too? Yes, It probably could be converted to a .700-Rob

18 July 2003, 11:40

Urodoji

Rob,

Do you think the receiver could stand the extra stress of the .700 BMG Imp.?

18 July 2003, 15:40

Robgunbuilder

Urodoji- Yes I believe it would, I have looked at the Barrett .50 and while it doesen't have adequate accuracy for a .50BMG, I don't really doubt it's inherent strength.-Rob

19 July 2003, 09:27

Urodoji

I just wonder about the ability of the welds in the receiver to handle the impact from the collar around the barrel extension(it's 3:30, I don't remember what Barrett calls it...), or if the sheet metal receiver would begin to flex and distort under that impact. Either way, I don't think there's much to be gained from improving the .50 BMG case, either by necking up, necking down(the .338 Talbot didn't do well, nor did the Mach V cartridge from State Arms), nor by straightening the case and giving it a sharper shoulder. I'll have to post a pic of my Barrett some time.

[ 07-18-2003, 12:28: Message edited by: Urodoji ]