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JWP475
Jack mentioned who you are, and I can't remember-(
Anyway, he loaded these things for tests for other guns he's building. I would have been VERY happy with 1150 fps with the 525's.
From our conversations, they kill better then anything out of a handgun yet.
GS
22 August 2006, 08:44
bigdoggy700GS.,
Jack has made several 50 alaskan revolvers out of the BFR revolver. With a 10" bl, you can get 1650ft./sec with 525 grain Buffalo Bore factory ammunition. This gun is big and heavy but still a kick to shoot.
BigD
You think 70 ftlbs in a pistol is fun?????

OWWW!!!
Funny he never mentioned those to me...
S
23 August 2006, 06:43
bigdoggy700GS,
I may have the wrong Jack. I am talking about Jack Huntington of JHR Guns. If I do, sorry for the confusion. I guess I'm crazy, but I have always enjoyed shooting big stuff. Rifles and handguns.
No, you've got the right JRH.
GS
24 August 2006, 05:53
bigdoggy700I am supposed to have a 50 alaskan being completed and shipped out this week. Jack stays really busy, so it might not make it till next week.
bigdoggy700
Your gun's almost done.;-)
Just got off the phone, trying to figure out how to get some stuff done.
Sincerely
GS
26 August 2006, 09:24
bigdoggy700GS.;
Yes I talked to Jack today and my 50 Alaskan is to ship out Monday. Thanks for the info.
24 June 2010, 22:21
kmg3000Again why not build it in a rifle configuration, has someone tried this and would it hold up?

25 June 2010, 06:59
Robgunbuilder.600 ok Desert Eagle? When a man just has to say no!-Rob
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012
Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise!
27 June 2010, 04:43
bigdoggy700I have shot the 600 nitro encore several times over the last couple of years. It is controllable if you brace yourself. The gun rises to about 70 degrees in recoil, but you can hold on to it and your feet can stay still instead of flying 4 steps backwards if you weigh enough. It is a true handful, but doable if you hold on tight. Rob, you are right, a 600 ok des eagle = NO WAY
27 June 2010, 05:18
RobgunbuilderHonestly, I'm surprised a .600 NE develops any real velocity in a 12-14 inch barrel. My .50BMG pistol never really got a 647gr bullet going fast enough to generate monster recoil. I suppose you would need much faster powders.-Rob
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012
Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise!
Not to long ago some yahoo let his 10 year old or so son shoot one of these monster handguns. It hit him on the top of the skull killing him!!! 21/2+ lbs of steel flying at such speed is a real club.
JD
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Merkel 140 in 470 Nitro
27 June 2010, 20:31
kmg3000But why not build in rifle form!!!! I am confused with why someone would start out with it as a pistol.

27 June 2010, 20:32
kmg3000Will someone build me a 26" 600 Nitro Encore barrel Id love to put this one to rest....
27 June 2010, 20:46
RobgunbuilderThere are 12GaFH Encore Rifles with 26 inch barrels out there that are shootable. The 12GaFH FAR exceeds any .600NE.-Rob
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012
Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise!
28 June 2010, 03:48
Mark ClarkI have lunch nearly every Monday with Dave Van Horn, the smith that made the 600 NE Encore in the video. IIRC he has the rest of the barrel blank from this project still in the rack, 22 inches. With a nice brake it would be almost 26" and with the right loads a shorter barrel will not have a velocity loss.
He said I could shoot the 600 pistol into the bullet trap at the shop. I declined and told him if I ever changed my mind and asked to fire it to tell me no.
Mark
28 June 2010, 05:49
kmg3000I tried to contact him, by phone, email, and fax with no avail. If he would build it I would be definately interested in it. I always wanted to own a 600 Nitro rifle but unlike most people I don't have the doe to afford one...
28 June 2010, 08:49
Mark ClarkDave is normaly at work 8 to 5 taking off for lunch 11-1. 480-892-9630 That is Arizona time, we do not do Daylight savings, we have plenty.
I will see him tommorow and tell him you may be calling. Fax and email in not his forte.
02 July 2010, 21:20
kmg3000I just spoke to Dave today so pretty much I have to decide on either a 577 Nitro Express or a 600 Nitro Express TC Encore. I think either one will hurt to shoot!

04 July 2010, 22:29
bigdoggy700You can do it. After a little practice you will do just fine!
05 July 2010, 01:51
TX NimrodMy .50-70 SSK Contender is handful enough for me. The full bull barrel is
so thin that you can't drill and tap it for a scope - even with Pachmayr rubber fore and aft it doesn't weight very much! 475s at 1275 fps and 750s at 1100 fps are plenty for me and for the 55" moose I killed with it. I once fired 39 rounds in one range day; at the 40th shot the pistol left my hand and landed in a snowbank behind me. My hand had gotten so tired from the beating it just refused to hold on for the last shot....
Enjoy your .600 NE.
.05 July 2010, 06:22
bigdoggy700I have one in a 50-140. you can load it up for a pretty big bang when you feel like it.
06 July 2010, 20:46
kmg3000I decided to go with a 24" bull barrel, un braked, chambered in 577 Nitro Express, will be tapped for scope mounts! Hope recoil will not be too bad!
06 July 2010, 20:48
kmg3000Oh, will post pics when it is all done.
06 July 2010, 20:55
WhitworthMy revolver in .50 Alaskan slings 525 grain bullets at 1,575 (verfied) and it is more than what I would consider a handful......

"Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP
If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming.
Semper Fidelis
"Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time"
07 July 2010, 12:07
J.D.RandellSomehow I think probably those getting hit in the head from shooting these sorts of handguns aren't suffering much by way of brain damage. You can't damage what you don't have!
That said, and sarcasm aside. I have a 1" bore black powder cannon I load w/ 500 gr. Fg and a 4 oz. lead ball, that I keep thinking might be interesting with a pistol grip.

07 July 2010, 16:45
Whitworthquote:
Originally posted by J.D.Randell:
Somehow I think probably those getting hit in the head from shooting these sorts of handguns aren't suffering much by way of brain damage. You can't damage what you don't have!
That said, and sarcasm aside. I have a 1" bore black powder cannon I load w/ 500 gr. Fg and a 4 oz. lead ball, that I keep thinking might be interesting with a pistol grip.
William Ladd, is that you?
"Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP
If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming.
Semper Fidelis
"Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time"