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Minimum Eye Relief for a 375H&H?
Minimum Eye Relief for a 375H&H?
Looking at getting a Zeiss Classic Diavari 1,5-6x42. The eye relief is 80mm. Opinions on wether this is enough or not?
There is a related question to this in the Small Bore Forum with regards to a scope for a 22lr, as the rifle is a Blaser R93, just thought maybe I'd get more answers here.
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20 May 2011, 00:29
Bob Nisbet80 millimeters = 3.1496063 inches
That is an acceptable eye relief for a 375 H&H, even with full power 300 grain cartridges.
I have a 1.75X6 on mine and have no problem with eye relief.
Caveat: You can get "hit" if you are sighting at an object well above your position (Rifle muzzle lifted high above horizontal).
Bob Nisbet
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It depends on what position your body is in --in relation to the rifle.
It's enough, but as someone pointed out, where are you positioned on the rifle / do you crawl the stock / is it a light rifle that kicks more than a normal one ?
If normal, 3" in enough.
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20 May 2011, 01:32
swampshooterUnder certain circumstances that might be close enough to put a rubber protector on the eye piece.
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20 May 2011, 04:17
Michael RobinsonEach of us is different, and rifle stocks can also be different, but FWIW, with the right length of pull and a straight comb, 80mm is plenty of eye relief for me on a .375.
Mike
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I like my 375s fairly trim and fast handling. As a result, I tend to prefer a forgiving eye box with ample room that does not box me tight against the eyepiece. 3" is definitely not ample and is on the tight end for my taste.
Personally, 3.5"(88mm) would be my "personal minimum" on a 375, and 4" would be much more to my liking.
I'm a stock crawler and I like a shorter than normal LOP. A scope with 3.1" of eye relief would hit me
far, far too often.
Jason
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20 May 2011, 08:34
Crazyhorseconsultingquote:
Personally, 3.5"(88mm) would be my "personal minimum" on a 375, and 4" would be much more to my liking.
That is just about where I like mine to be set.
Even the rocks don't last forever.
Thanks for quick replies. The rifle is the R93 Safari with a straight comb, so it has the Kickstop and 22mm barrel, so its definately not light. I prefer a longer LOP and have put a Slip on Recoil pad onto my 270 to extend the LOP as I used to get a scope cut now and again, even with a 270 but only on the higher magnification (12x)and only from a bench that was a bit low. The LOP on the blaser is really short IMO. So thinking of putting the same slip on pad on the 375. Thanks again for the advice.
"A peculiar virtue in wildlife ethics is that the hunter ordinarily has no gallery to applaud or disapprove of his conduct. Whatever his acts, they are dictated by his own conscience, rather than by a mob of onlookers. It is difficult to exaggerate the importance of this fact."
Ive got 4" on my 375 ruger and it seems perfect for me. I would like a little more than 3.1.
20 May 2011, 19:49
PatagonHunterHi Deon,
I preffer some more eye distance in a .375. I have a Zeiss Victory 1,5-6x42 in my M70. For a little more you will pay for a Classic you can have the Victory. It is a little lighter, a little shorter, a little longer eye releif and a little greater field of view in all powders than the Z Classic.
Another great choice is the Kahles Helia C in the same magnification range. Almos the same specifications than the Victory.
Good luck!
PH
quote:
Originally posted by JBrown:
Personally, 3.5"(88mm) would be my "personal minimum" on a 375, and 4" would be much more to my liking.
+2
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Robert
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I think you should be fine. My r93 has less perceived recoil than other stock designs. I fitted my professional with the kick stop and optional/longer blaser pad. My 416rem is tolerable with this set up. It also is a safari barrel contour.
Ask your dealer about the longer pad.
I wouldn't do anything with less than 3.8"
I took a bunch of Euro scopes off of rifles for that reason alone.
BUTCH
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(It is all good)
25 May 2011, 07:02
Ed ScarboroI have a 3X9 Burris on one mod70 Win in 375H&H and a 4X16 Burris on another. I believe the eye relief is 3.5" on the highest magnification on both. I haven't had a problem with either. My brother has a 2X7 Leupold on his 375 Browning A Bolt and couple of scars to show for it.
25 May 2011, 07:09
Duane WiebeOK..heres the rule of thumb: When your eyebrow gets broken...go for another half inch.
quote:
Originally posted by Ed Scarboro:
My brother has a 2X7 Leupold on his 375 Browning A Bolt and couple of scars to show for it.
Then he is doing something wrong. The 2x7 has 3.8" of eye relief when turned to its highest power.
Maybe he is not using all of its eye relief?
Jason
"You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core."
_______________________
Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.
Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.
-Jason Brown
25 May 2011, 16:25
CrazyhorseconsultingDon't know about anyone else, but on all my bigger rifles, 300 Weatherby/35 Whelen/375 H&H and the other stuff in that same caliber group I have owned, I judge eye relief by the visor of a gimmie cap.
The average length of those visors is about 2.75 inches. If I am shooting one of my rifles sighting in at the bench, and the lens starts hitting that visor and flipping my cap up, the scope is too close to my face.
Even the rocks don't last forever.
26 May 2011, 01:51
jstevensYou want enough eye relief that the scope doesn't do more than brush your eyebrow! I have shot a .375 with the Zeiss scopes with no problem, but someone who holds a rifle differently might be another story.
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