How is the Bertram brass today??
For years I have Heard that it is shit...
And the .585 nyati brass/cases that they sell is not "formed"
It is difficult to form their .585 nyati brass to the real size?
How do you do it?
Sorry for my bad English.. I have been to Close to finalnd to long

I have 585 Hubel brass and their is nothing wrong with it at all !!!!its good quality, no problems at all!!! i dont know about the Nyati as it seemed to have problems of its own anyway ,i would get a Hubel if i were you ,much better round IMO .

Also using 500 A Square brass which needs fire forming, no problems at all with it ,much cheaper here than imported brass, Bruce Bertram is a Godsend for us here, in that he makes just about anything you would want, so we dont have to go through all the annoying Government Crap and hoops to get brass from the U.S ,he also produces projectiles up 577 NE

Forgot also using 600 NE brass and its good too

No experience of their current production.

But, a few years ago it was the worst brass we have ever seen.

I hope they have sorted the problems out.

I've got a 585 Nyati myself and have some Bertram brass that I've had to cut back and form.
No dramas at all, I necked them down first, then cut them back to length. They've been fired around 3-4 times and I annealed them last time, just because I don't particularly want them to work harden.

You'll be happy with Bertram brass these days.

DC

"I've got a 585 Nyati myself and have some Bertram brass that I've had to cut back and form.
No dramas at all, I necked them down first, then cut them back to length. They've been fired around 3-4 times and I annealed them last time, just because I don't particularly want them to work harden.

You'll be happy with Bertram brass these days."

How did you neck them down?? how it is done? what Tools?

He just ran the straight walled case into the sizing die to form the neck. There are numerous versions of the Nyati reamer in existence resulting in no standardization of the chambers. The original Ross Seyfried Designed reamer that was commonly used resulted in a tight neck with Bertram brass that had to be neck turned ( really thin) to properly chamber a loaded round. I made a neck reamer to solve that problem in my gun. A few of us then worked with JGS to re-design the reamer to increase the neck diameter to avoid this problem. However, There are still a lot of early Nyatis out there that may not work with this Brass. You will not know till you try it. It would be interesting to see if the New Bertram brass works in my gun even though I still have 500 rnds of Horneber "good stuff".-Rob

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Originally posted by Overkill from sweden:
"I've got a 585 Nyati myself and have some Bertram brass that I've had to cut back and form.
No dramas at all, I necked them down first, then cut them back to length. They've been fired around 3-4 times and I annealed them last time, just because I don't particularly want them to work harden.

You'll be happy with Bertram brass these days."

How did you neck them down?? how it is done? what Tools?

Yes, as Rob said, just run them into the FLS die, then trim back to 2.800". My barrel is a Lothar-Walther that I had them deep chamber so my Gunsmith here could fit it. They used a Triebell reamer, and I don't need to neck turn at all.

DC