.395 HEADS to AFRICA! AFRICA LOSES (some animals)!

13 February 2011, 09:03

That there is a big rock in Botswana called a kopje, pronounced like "copy" as in Xerox copy, for you in Rio Linda.
Ain't no place in Kaintuck that flat and clear of pickup trucks on concrete blocks.

14 February 2011, 06:56

I Bin Therbefor

As I recall, the 395 H&H Improved was calculated at 76.7 grains for 2605 FPS, and 85.2 grains for 2745 FPS using XMR-3100, 340 grain bullet with a barrel length of 26". where are you with the current H&H based 395?

15 February 2011, 08:20

RIP

IBT,
Expect about 2545 fps with 340-grainer in the .395 H&H "Unimproved."
I'll be sure to run the QuickLoad numbers and compare to actual load data and chronograph results.
The .395 H&H is the "thinking gentleman's cartridge."

15 February 2011, 16:17

I Bin Therbefor

quote:
Originally posted by RIP:
IBT,
Expect about 2545 fps with 340-grainer in the .395 H&H "Unimproved."
I'll be sure to run the QuickLoad numbers and compare to actual load data and chronograph results.
The .395 H&H is the "thinking gentleman's cartridge."

Thanks

While your on QuickLoad, would you please run the numbers for a 395 Max with an 18 inch barrel?

IBT

16 February 2011, 10:03

RIP

IBT,
The .395 Ruger max is intermediate to the .395 GSC-H&H-Ackley-ized (greater) and the .395 H&H-Unadulterated (lesser).

I estimate the .395 H&H at 95.30 grains of water gross.
The .395 Ruger Max is about 102.00 grains water gross IIRC.

Since you mentioned the 340-grain GSC bullet and barrel length comparison in the .395 Ruger Max:

QuickLoad shows RL-17 to be an excellent powder for the .395 Ruger Max:

80.5 grains RL-17 is a 100.6%, barely compressed load, with presure of 62,319 psi, barely below the maximum allowed of 62,366 psi.
Barrel length -vs- muzzle velocity, .395 Ruger Max:
26": 2667 fps
24": 2627 fps
22": 2581 fps
20": 2529 fps
18": 2469 fps

I can get 2577 fps with a 24" barrel in the .395 H&H with same 340-grainer and 76.4 grains of RL-17 for a 103% nicely compressed load at 62,181 psi.
That too is below the .375 H&H maxpressure of 62,366 psi.

That is 'puter ballistics only, yet to be proven.
RL-17 must be tried.
It works great in the 12 Ga From Hell.

Other RL-17 loads in .395 H&H-Unimproved with 24" barrel:
330-grain S&H FN: 2609 fps @ 62,104 psi (76.7 grains)
310-grain S&H HX: 2633 fps @ 59,295 psi (75.0 grains)

2350 fps with 410-grainer is possible in the 'puter, but can a home-made-gas-checked-cast lead boolitt stand it in the .395 H&H???
That is a classic .416 Rigby KE-MV from a featherweight .395.

16 February 2011, 16:28

I Bin Therbefor

quote:
Originally posted by RIP:
IBT,
The .395 Ruger max is intermediate to the .395 GSC-H&H-Ackley-ized (greater) and the .395 H&H-Unadulterated (lesser).

I estimate the .395 H&H at 95.30 grains of water gross.
The .395 Ruger Max is about 102.00 grains water gross IIRC.

Since you mentioned the 340-grain GSC bullet and barrel length comparison in the .395 Ruger Max:

QuickLoad shows RL-17 to be an excellent powder for the .395 Ruger Max:

80.5 grains RL-17 is a 100.6%, barely compressed load, with presure of 62,319 psi, barely below the maximum allowed of 62,366 psi.
Barrel length -vs- muzzle velocity, .395 Ruger Max:
26": 2667 fps
24": 2627 fps
22": 2581 fps
20": 2529 fps
18": 2469 fps

I can get 2577 fps with a 24" barrel in the .395 H&H with same 340-grainer and 76.4 grains of RL-17 for a 103% nicely compressed load at 62,181 psi.
That too is below the .375 H&H maxpressure of 62,366 psi.

That is 'puter ballistics only, yet to be proven.
RL-17 must be tried.
It works great in the 12 Ga From Hell.

Other RL-17 loads in .395 H&H-Unimproved with 24" barrel:
330-grain S&H FN: 2609 fps @ 62,104 psi (76.7 grains)
310-grain S&H HX: 2633 fps @ 59,295 psi (75.0 grains)

2350 fps with 410-grainer is possible in the 'puter, but can a home-made-gas-checked-cast lead boolitt stand it in the .395 H&H???
That is a classic .416 Rigby KE-MV from a featherweight .395.

Thanks again.

As you can guess, I'm day dreaming of a short barreled B & M style rifle based on the 395 Ruger Max. If the 'puter calculations hold up in practice, 2469 fps should give a good enough trajectory for anything under 200 yrds.