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Repost of 600 Overkill Video..Such "Horsepower"!
08 March 2010, 10:28
470drshooterRepost of 600 Overkill Video..Such "Horsepower"!
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Originally posted by CCMDoc:
Nope, no more worry than shooting without a muzzle brake.
Neither I nor anyone else I hunt with use any sort of plugs or noise cancelling devices while hunting.
Of course we all do when target shooting/sighting-in/plinking but not in the field hunting particularly when hunting dangerous game or when dangerous game might be hunting us.
I wonder if law enforcement personnel use plugs or electronic noise cancelling headsets while on the job. I wonder too what the dB level at the ear of the shooter firing a 9mm, 40, 38 or 357 from a 4-6" barrel might be compared to that from a long rifle in a big-bore hunting caliber.
The reason I ask is that for LEOs there probably has been some scientific data collected from their discharge of weapons while on the job (vs. practice at the range). If that data exists AND there has been a comparison of the dB of a typical LEO's weapon to a typical big bore hunting rifle, we could then generate a graph of shots to hearing loss. AND if we had true scientific data comparing the dB reaching the ear of a person firing a typicl big bor long rifle both with and without a muzzle brake, we could generate a similar graphfor that experience (of course accurate only for that length barrel, that particular round at that particular velocity and that particular muzzle brake design).
So, lot's to ponder and calculate. No doubt that hearing injury can be (but not exclusively) cumulative and certainly something to be seriousy considered and prevented. While real, the danger of muzzle brakes, like that of the Swine Flu (H1N1) the media hype far, far, far outstrips the reality.
Finished 32 years of Law enforcement in 2008, and when we started, we used cotton balls for hearing protection. Had one shooting incident while on the job, five rounds of 38 Special.
The use of the siren also plays into your hearing loss and due to a moderate amount of hearing loss, I wear inside the ear battery powered hearing protection when I hunt and shoot.
Worked well on my recent Africa trip and will use on future trips. Shot without once with my 300 Jarrett and could not hear for the rest of the night.
Eyesight and hearing are too precious. Nature takes them away naturally, don't have to hurry the process.
08 March 2010, 17:25
fourborequote:
I have to say that the pics posted here should be a wake up call for the "INEXPERIENCED EXPERTS" we seem to have accumulated on this site lately. Perhaps they will get it through their thick heads that just because THEY cant shoot a real BIG BORE doesnt mean that others cant!. Sorry guys thats the truth!
Please note that people do hunt with ,600OKs and do quite well! Note that EXPERIENCED Hunters use muzzel brakes for a reason. That reason is they WORK! Pay attention, focus, concentrate. Perhaps you'll learn something!-Rob
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Your right. It is a sad commentary that it seems to be the rule these days that people with no actual experience in an area now feel that they have the absolute right to tell those who do ,what their opinions of their work is and absolutely hate it when their exposed as FOOLS. Its trendy to be nice, but I dont suffer fools well.
Unfortunately this is the internet and the make believe crowd has lots of bandwidth.
I also have to thank the guys on this thread who have done so much with this cartridge. I just got it going. They keep it going! -Rob
And more words from the great man:
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ScottS-In Your drug induced fantasy world you might consider that others have gone well beyond the somewhat basic efforts of JD Jones. Please dont tell US what you have read somewhere, because WE DONT CARE WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY! Comprendo Retardo?-Rob
Does not suffer fools well, is an understatement! Warning, dont disagree with Rob, the Gun Builder. Comprendo.
Rebated rim design, 50% reduction in magazine capacity with single column feed, last but most Muzzle Brakes are never to be discussed in the presence of the great man.
08 March 2010, 18:00
doubledownI never understood why people will buy a .50 , or .60 caliber rifle and then want to load it way down, then in the same breath bash people who use muzzle brakes to tame recoil and make good shots. I shoot way too much to do otherwise. My Lott is the biggest rifle I shoot without a brake. My .500 Jeffery was ordered with one, and when the time comes so will my .600 OK.
08 March 2010, 18:31
fourborequote:
I never understood why people will buy a .50 , or .60 caliber rifle and then want to load it way down, then in the same breath bash people who use muzzle brakes to tame recoil and make good shots.
I guess it can be a fine line between expressing an opinion and offending some one.
Most of the so-called bashing is in the imagination of the insecure. Not intended to be personal but could be taken that way.
Words like "FOOLS" or "drug induced" can only be taken one way.
A little civility goes a long way to make friends and influence people.
Could this be why gun writers sugar coat every new gun review? it sure is easier to just praise every than than express both opinions for and against ideas.
08 March 2010, 19:32
RobgunbuilderAh as predicted,I see one of the the "clowns" has taken the bait! Like a BASS sucking down a Rubber worm! So predicable, so STUPID! No matter how little they know, they deem it important to share their views. I strongly suggest the sage lines "STFU" till you can add something of value. If that bothers you. TAKE this lesson to heart. WE DONT CARE!-Rob
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012
Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise!
08 March 2010, 19:43
fourborequote:
Ah as predicted,I see one of the the "clowns" has taken the bait! Like a BASS sucking down a Rubber worm!
This was a good thread -Photos of guns and successful hunts. Then, Rob dropped his bucket of fish heads in the water.
10 March 2010, 01:02
SAFARIKIDFound the Zebra Pic...I think he was 139yds(rangefinder,but foggy memory-ha!) Dropped like the Hammer of Thor hit him!(Matter of fact,it did,that was the name engraved on that AHR 600!)

900 grain Woodleigh Soft,but didnt go out the other side...Bullet looked like a pancake and the internal damage loooked like he had hungry lil Rats living inside him!

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10 March 2010, 04:04
BitterrootKid,
I'm a two-hole-per-bullet man myself but those Woodleighs are doin the job. Perfect for when you're shooting into a herd.
10 March 2010, 04:43
SAFARIKIDPoint well taken!

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10 March 2010, 05:36
RobgunbuilderKid- Nice shot at 140 yrds. Zebra are tough critters. I saw one take 3 .416 Rigby's through the shoulder and Diaphragm and go nearly 1/2 a mile. Thats also good expansion at that range.-Rob
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012
Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise!
12 March 2010, 18:10
SAFARIKIDThanks Rob...I also loaded some 900 grain Woody Softs Backwards,Yes backwards!...I never shot anything with one,but talk about mean looking and Metplat to the Moon!

I would like to see what it would do to a large boar or enraged Armadillo

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13 March 2010, 18:52
Bitterroot800 Grain X's ready for polishing
13 March 2010, 19:12
SAFARIKIDWayne,Polish those bad boys up!Make'm look like WMD's!

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