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29 January 2005, 00:59
Mighty Joe
Ruger RSM Ring Lever Conversion?
I have a Ruger RSM and would like to convert the slotted knobs on the Ruger rings to a lever to facilitate quick scope removal in the field without tools, for open sight use. Has anyone done that and how did you do it?

I have scanned Brownells pretty thoroughly and haven't found anything.

This is also posted in Optics, but with little action. Thanks, MJ


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29 January 2005, 02:21
RIP
Some manufacturer offers these, and Big Sam posted the address here before. I'll look for it, but "sumbuddy who know" may add it before I do.

I think that after seeing Bill C's Warne Ruger QD fiasco, the lever add-on to the standard Ruger rings might be the way to go.

I have never been able to mangle the standard Ruger rings, and I have given them some heavy abuse.
29 January 2005, 03:34
RIP
"Quick Turn" lever for Ruger rings:
$42.00 (20% discount to dealers)
Falcon Industries
(877) 281-3783

I never ordered any since I got the Warne rings instead. This is old info. Hope they are still in business.
29 January 2005, 03:44
Mighty Joe
Thanks, I'll give them a call Monday. I just called and they were already closed for the week. Regards, MJ


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29 January 2005, 07:41
Atkinson
Any gunsmith can put a lever in the existing slots and tig them...They work real well...


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29 January 2005, 22:06
RIP
quote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
Any gunsmith can put a lever in the existing slots and tig them...They work real well...


Excellent idea, should be easy to do. I gotta stop by the Smith and get him to make a couple of sets that could then be moved about from rifle to rifle as needed to replace the existing slotted nut. TIG and polish and blue.

Then see if it is any cheaper by smith than $42.00 per pair of nuts.
21 February 2005, 01:04
Mighty Joe
quote:
Originally posted by RIP:
"Quick Turn" lever for Ruger rings:
$42.00 (20% discount to dealers)
Falcon Industries
(877) 281-3783

I never ordered any since I got the Warne rings instead. This is old info. Hope they are still in business.


I ordered the levers from Falcon Industries. Here is what they look like.



The levers cost $ 42 + 4 S&H. Took about 10 days to arrive. They are polished smooth with no sharp edges and blued in a high luster. They look very nice. I had asked the proprieter about positioning the levers and he indicated that by using spacer washers you could change the final tightened position.

Unfortunately they only sent two washers which didn't do the trick. I went to the hardware store looking for shim washers, but couldn't find any. Normal washers are too thick. I tried 3/8" OD x 3/16 ID wavy washers which allowed me to position them as shown in the photo along with the ones supplied.

I think I will try Brownells for some shim washers to get perfect horizontal position.

If I recall The Warnes are $ 70 @ Midway. I think they might be a much better way to go since their levers are spring loaded to position at any angle.

Live & Learn.


Prayer, planning, preperation, perseverence, proper procedure, and positive attitude, positively prevents poor performance.
21 February 2005, 01:54
RIP
Mighty Joe,
Thanks for the update. That reminded me that I left a set of Ruger rings with the smith to do a homemade lever, and forgot about it.

Could one not face off the contact surface (on the flat underside where the washers go) by a hairsbredth, and recheck, repeat until the levers lined up where you want them?

Your setup may be superior to the Warnes for strength, if the Ruger rings are any stronger than the Warne??? Don't be too quick to discard the Ruger rings with add on lever.

Bill C busted a set of Warnes on his .458 Lott.
21 February 2005, 02:06
Mighty Joe
quote:
Could one not face off the contact surface (on the flat underside where the washers go) by a hairsbredth, and recheck, repeat until the levers lined up where you want them?



Great idea. I suppose thats why we hang out around here. Thanks,


Prayer, planning, preperation, perseverence, proper procedure, and positive attitude, positively prevents poor performance.
21 February 2005, 06:47
RIP
Mighty Joe,
The picture came through lod and clear, though a little dark in the black on black lever details.

I would say those look better than the Warne rings I have.

I am going to order a set.

I think the Ruger factory rings look like they are machined steel. If they are not, then I think Ruger knows how to cast and heat treat better than Warne does.

Either that or the batch that included Bill C's Warne rings was done on a Monday morning or a Friday afternoon.

I think your setup woud be better than the Warnes.

Remember the Warnes put the levers over on the bolt side of the action, to be avoided if possible.
21 February 2005, 10:38
Hog Killer
If there is enough thead lenght on the screw, filing it down a little at a time would change the indexing and the final postion of the lever.

Hog Killer


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21 February 2005, 14:09
lawndart
Yeah,
I like those levers better than the Warnes by quite a little bit.

lawndart


21 February 2005, 17:14
Mighty Joe
quote:
Originally posted by Hog Killer:
If there is enough thead lenght on the screw, filing it down a little at a time would change the indexing and the final postion of the lever.

Hog Killer


The levers are threaded blind female. As RIP suggested, sanding/grinding the face of the lever face ever so slightly, would be way to go.
Filing the screw which has the integral scallop for mating with the receiver, would not work in this case.


Prayer, planning, preperation, perseverence, proper procedure, and positive attitude, positively prevents poor performance.
22 February 2005, 06:54
RIP
I ordered some of those levers today. thumb
02 March 2005, 00:02
RIP
Those levers came in the mail yesterday. 6 days and delivered.

I really like them better than the Warnes. I used one set of the brass washers with one of the levers, and no brass washer with the other lever, and they lined up just right for me.

These are now on a Whitworth Mark X in .358 STA, with Talley bases that fit the Ruger rings to Mauser contour receivers. Sweet.

If the Warnes on the Rugers ever give up the ghost, the levers can be moved from one rifle to another, with the standard Ruger rings, that are about as indestructible as it gets. Then just replace the Ruger nuts on the vacated rifle. One pair is all anyone would need for one rifle at a time.

I would rather find the proper washer than grind on the lever.
03 March 2005, 07:53
Mighty Joe
RIP; I can't believe yours worked first time. My luck.

I just ordered shim washers from McMaster Carr:

Shim Washers

I ordered 25-.002 & 25-.004 That ought to do the trick. Once I figure out the combo, I'll glue them together. FYI...


Prayer, planning, preperation, perseverence, proper procedure, and positive attitude, positively prevents poor performance.
03 March 2005, 10:27
RIP
Mighty Joe,
Nice link.
Glad you reminded me to order those levers. Beats Warne. thumb
04 March 2005, 23:17
Wise1
Anyone have a link to this Falcon Industries website?


Billy Bob
04 March 2005, 23:22
Pete E
I wonder if these levers would fit or are available for the CZ mounts?



Men of Harlech
05 March 2005, 00:17
Glen71
quote:
Originally posted by RIP:
These are now on a Whitworth Mark X in .358 STA, with Talley bases that fit the Ruger rings to Mauser contour receivers. Sweet.

RIP - Are you saying that Ruger rings fit the standard Talley bases? Too cool, if true.


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05 March 2005, 04:20
RIP
Glen71,
No, not the standard Talley bases.
Talley used to make bases that fit Ruger rings to various actions. Don't know if you can still get them, but they were available in the early 1990's.
05 March 2005, 05:32
RIP
quote:
Originally posted by Wise1:
Anyone have a link to this Falcon Industries website?


Wise1,

www.ergogrips.net

is a web site of

Falcon Industries Inc.
P.O.Box 1690
Edgewood, New Mexico 87015-1690

Telephone: 505-281-3783
Fax: 505-281-3991

They make grips and accessories for AR-15, etc.
The Ruger levers are a sideline for them.

You can e-mail them at

orders@ergogrips.net
05 March 2005, 05:36
RIP
quote:
Originally posted by Pete E:
I wonder if these levers would fit or are available for the CZ mounts?


Pete E,
The Ruger levers have a blind female thread, as Mighty Joe pointed out. The CZ would require a male metric machine screw set into these levers to use on the CZ. I have not heard of Falcon Industries making any specifically for the CZ rings.
06 March 2005, 02:16
MacD37
Does anyone know if those things return to zero once removed, then re-installed? The regular Ruger rings do not!


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06 March 2005, 03:02
RIP
quote:
Originally posted by MacD37:
Does anyone know if those things return to zero once removed, then re-installed? The regular Ruger rings do not!


Ya know Mac, I do not care about return to zero.

I do not trust any setup to return to the kind of zero that I like.

I just want to be able to get that 1.5x-5x Leupold off of there in a hurry if it ever goes to hell. No fumbling for a tool in my pocket.

I will almost always be better off with the scope in place. If I do have to get it off in a hurry, then that is something worth celebrating later with a re-zero.

I just want a strong mount that comes off fast in the rare time of need. Then the scope will stay off and I will shoot irons until I can re-zero it precisely.

There is no QD outfit in the world that can meet my exacting standards for return to zero. Wink