Re: Is there any interst in big bore riflles

27 November 2004, 18:53

There are just a bunch of those high dollar custom rifles out there that won't feed the big bore rounds..Guys like D'Arcy know how to build a DGR, but not all of them do.....

I think a plain jane rifle would sell if it were done properly, tested well before it left the maker..A gun can have class without high dollar wood, as long as the workmanship is decent, it shoots and it functions..I would glass bed them all..

Short cuts that can save you production costs are a sweated on front sight and island rear sight like the Holland and Holland (LW makes that barrel the works with that sight), Timney triggers, left side flag safty, no fE tip, round bull sack grip as opposed to a steel grip cap...

I can put you on to some great wood at a great price in bulk....

Parkerizeing is very classy indeed if you do it on polished metal, reminesent of rust blue..and its very durable and rust resistant.

None of these "short cuts" take away from the rifle IMO, and are about what you expect on a workman like English gun...I have a couple of these low grade English guns and I love them...

27 November 2004, 06:20

FourTails

Lawcop, Congratulation! In my opinion your .375 H&H with the Krinkle paint job AND muzzlebrake has set a new standard. You have raised the bar to a level unobtainable by no other. Lord! I hope that thing shoots because never, have I ever, cast my eyes on such a gun. Kind of like the guy who married the ugly woman and stated, "She's ugly alright. But, man can she....." One question though. Do you have to wear a paper bag when going hunting?

Good shooting! Mike

27 November 2004, 15:27

LAWCOP

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Lawcop, Congratulation! In my opinion your .375 H&H with the Krinkle paint job AND muzzlebrake has set a new standard. You have raised the bar to a level unobtainable by no other. Lord! I hope that thing shoots because never, have I ever, cast my eyes on such a gun. Kind of like the guy who married the ugly woman and stated, "She's ugly alright. But, man can she....." One question though. Do you have to wear a paper bag when going hunting? Good shooting! Mike

THANKYOU...THANKYOUVERYMUCH..
It actually shoots 1" groups with Barnes 270gr X Bullets if I do my thing well, and underneath that Krinkle is blue that looks like it just came from the factory even though it is over 20 years old and has been exposed ot all the elements North country hunting can subject it to over those years. The Griffin & Howe mount has been flawless also over the years with unbelieveable return to zero capability.

THe brake is without question the BEST brake out there.( I have tried every popular one out there) You can take that rifle and hold it off hand(it only weighs 8 pounds) and the recoil is like a Model 19 .357. It is AWESOME.

I actually have a couple of rifles that are actually UGLIER then that one. One is a shorty Mauser 308 with a homemade folding stock with a forward scout mount setup that weighs in at about 6 pounds total and has a LOP of about 13". It allows me to shoulder with a pack with no problem or when in very heavy gear in the winter. Of course it is Krinkle painted also.
It functions and shoots well.
Nothing wrong with "purtee" but will it work under horrible conditions, is all I care about.

AND NO I don't wear a bag when I take it out. I can tell you I have even had a guide dragging an old beat up POS Enfield look at it and wrinkle his nose.

until he saw it shoot.

27 November 2004, 14:39

holland465

I totally agree with you on feeding! So many rifles that are built today are very nice but will not feed! This is a must!

26 November 2004, 06:23

jjs

I have little experience with "Big Bore" guns. Before I found the AR web site I would have purchased a Weatherby. I own several of them and like them, however, from what I gathered from experienced folks here (with much more knowledge about DGR than I) I decided to go a different direction.

Based upon feedback here and the availability of the rifles, I chose CZ 550 Safaris. I solicted opions here about what to do to the CZ's to make them a reliable DGR and was provided some good advice. What I needed up with, my modified CZ's, were rifles that I am very satisfied with... I put as much $$ in Gunsmith work as the price of the rifle..and I have the upgraded American CZ stocks....That stock is workable but could be improved upon.

I would judge the my modified CZ's to be in the "class of rifles" Ray described and outlined by others $1,500 to $2,000. However, it appears that many folks purchase the CZ and do little to them and are very happy...but I look at the CZ as a basic rifle that needs improvement to be what it should be from the factory...it seems CZ is interested in hitting a price point ie less than $700 to get the rifles in the market and establish a position and they have inventory to do it...I like them and will continue to purchase them...I have a CZ 416 Rigby that Roger Ferrell is working on for me as I write this...

Would I have looked at other options... in that price range for a semi-custom gun...of course I would...as long as there is some track record...

If you decided to pursue this... I would suggest you build several prototypes and get them in the hands of folks that know something...unlike me...